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posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 03:22 AM
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Yes I'm aware, I was just making a statement on the state of our food. Seemed like a fair instance to spread the info that our food is already in a poor condition.
Irradiating food does the same to the cells of food that irradiating our body does to our cells. It's indirect but it causes cancer just the same as well as many other problems.




posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
Yes I'm aware, I was just making a statement on the state of our food. Seemed like a fair instance to spread the info that our food is already in a poor condition.
Irradiating food does the same to the cells of food that irradiating our body does to our cells. It's indirect but it causes cancer just the same as well as many other problems.
It sounds like you're getting information from a crackpot website to me.

You're far more likely to die from food that hasn't been irradiated, than food that has been irradiated. That's because the radiation kills things in the food that can kill you if you eat them. Yes it damages DNA in the food, but you don't use that DNA, you have your own DNA. I'm perfectly happy to eat irradiated food, in fact I prefer it to food which hasn't been irradiated because I think it's safer to eat even with the damage to which you refer. You don't think it's safer, that's fine, you can grow your own food and don't irradiate it. Here's a faq on the effects of irradiating food:
Food Fact Safety Sheet By Charlotte P. Brennand, PhD, Extension Food Safety Specialist


4. Does eating irradiated food present long-term health risks?

No. Federal government and other scientists reviewed several hundred studies on the effects of food irradiation before reaching conclusions about the general safety of the treatment. In order to make recommendations specifically about poultry irradiation, U.S. Food and Drug Administration scientists reviewed findings form additional relevant studies.

Independent scientific committees in Denmark, Sweden, United Kingdom and Canada also have reaffirmed the safety of food irradiation. In addition, food irradiation has received official international endorsement from the World Health Organizations and the International Atomic Energy Agency....

6. Does irradiation cause chemical changes in food, producing substances not known to be present in non-irradiated food?

Yes, irradiation does produce chemical changes in foods. These substances, called "radio-lytic products", may sound mysterious, but they are not. They have been scrutinized by scientists in making safety assessments of irradiated foods. Any kind of treatment causes chemical changes in food. For instance, heat treatment, or cooking, produces chemicals that could be called "thermolytic products." Scientists find the changes in food created by irradiation minor to those created by cooking. The products created by cooking are so significant that consumers can smell and taste them, whereas only a chemist with extremely sensitive lab equipment may be able to detect radiolytic products.
So cooking changes your food more than irradiating it does.

But I'm not OK with eating food that contains radioactive material significantly above background, which is the topic of this thread. The higher the radioactivity in the food, the larger the risk.



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 04:21 AM
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There is radiation in everything you eat only minute amounts but it's there!!



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 04:46 AM
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Wrong friend you need to read more on it.
Also they irradiate food to "erase" problems that the food industry should be solving.. like not letting fields flood with human waste and contaminate with ecoli. Same with meat industry.
It's complete b.s.

www.organicconsumers.org...

www.truehealth.org...


George L. Tritsch, PhD Cancer Research Scientist, Roswell Park Memorial Institute, New York State Department of Health. I am speaking as a private citizen, and my opinions are my own, based on thirty-three years of experience since my doctorate at Cornell Medical College, Rockefeller University and, since 1959, as a cancer research scientist and biochemist at Roswell. I am opposed to consuming irradiated food because of the abundant and convincing evidence in the refereed scientific literature that the condensation products of the free radicals formed during irradiation produce statistically significant increases in carcinogenesis, mutagenesis and cardiovascular disease in animals and man. I will not address the reported destruction of vitamins and other nutrients (what? - more nutrient deficiencies?; my comment) by irradiation because suitable supplementation of the diet can prevent the development of such potential deficiencies. However, I cannot protect myself from the carcinogenic and other harmful insults to the body placed into the food supples and I can see no tangible benefit to be traded for the possible increased incidence of malignant disease one to three decades in the future. Irradiation works by splitting chemical bonds in molecules with high energy beams to form ions and free radicals. When sufficient critical bonds are split in organisms contaminating a food, the organism is killed. Comparable bonds are split in the food. Ions are stable; free radicals contain an unpaired electron and are inherently unstable and therefore reactive. How long free radicals remain in food treated with a given dose of radiation or the reaction products formed in a given food cannot be calculated but must be tested experimentally for each food. Different doses of radiation will produce different amounts and kinds of products. The kinds of bonds split in a given molecule are governed by statistical considerations. Thus, while most molecules of a given fatty acid, for example, may be split in a certain manner, other molecules of the same fatty acid will be split differently. A free radical can either combine with another free radical to form a stable compound, or it can initiate a [chemical] chain reaction by reacting with a stable molecule to form another free radical, et cetera, until the chain is terminated by the reaction of two free radicals to form a stable compound. These reactions continue long after the irradiation procedure. I am bringing this up to give you a rationale for the vast number of new molecules that can be formed from irradiation of a single molecular species, to say nothing of a complicated mixture such as food. Furthermore, the final number and types of new molecules formed will depend on the other molecules present in the sample. Thus, free radicals originating from fats could form new compounds with proteins, nucleic acids [DNA], and so forth.



4) Irradiated laboratory animal diets: dominant lethal studies in the mouse. Mutat Res 1981 Feb;80(2):333-45 Anderson D, Clapp MJ, Hodge MC, Weight TM. In 4 separate dominant lethal experiments groups of mice of either Charles River CD1 or Alderley Park strains were fed laboratory diets (Oakes, 41B, PRD, BP nutrition rat and mouse maintenance diet No. 1). The diets were either untreated (negative control diets) or irradiated at 1, 2.5 and 5 megarad and were freshly irradiated, or stored. The animals were fed their test diets for a period of 3 weeks prior to mating. Groups of mice given a single intraperitoneal injection of 200 mg cyclophosphamide per kg body weight served as the positive controls. Freshly irradiated PRD diet fed to male mice of both strains caused an increase in early deaths in females mated to the males in week 7 and to a lesser extent in week 4. The increase due to irradiation was small by comparison with that produced by the positive control compound. The responses for the other irradiated diets showed no significant increases in early deaths although some values for Oakes diet were high. The effect of storage was examined with PRD and BPN diet on one occasion and produced conflicting results. Thus there was some evidence that irradiated PRD diet has weak mutagenic activity in the meiotic and/or pre-meiotic phase of the spermatogenic cycle which appeared to be lessened on storage; the inclusion of such a diet in toxicological studies would therefore need to be carefully considered. PMID: 7207489 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 04:59 AM
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Our futur .. soon we will glow like Mister Burn



at least we wont need flashlights anymore



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 05:31 AM
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i dont wanna go to japan in next 100 years



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 05:52 AM
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Update :

Tested the ice-cream and really couldn't detect any noticeable difference in it vs' normal background. Of course the strawberries are dispersed throughout. Not an easy thing to test.

The milk on the other hand is really easy to test. I have a cd v-700 with a brand new geiger tube in it. I put the probe inside a latex glove and then submerge it into a glass of milk and the difference is night and day vs' background.

If any of you have a geiger counter, give this a try. Would be interested in hearing your findings..



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 08:31 AM
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Not in firehose? thats called infomation control!

just wait until the most of the radiation get
in to the fish people eat in othere countrys.
and Usa.
in the next 5 to 10 years you will se big die off's.
thats humans. if we make it that long.



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 08:54 AM
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Other than China, Japan holds more U.S. Debt than any other nation. Perhaps we need to look at the collateral damage caused to Americans and have Japan knock that off the bill.



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 09:58 AM
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I like others am concerned about public safety when it involves food, but we also consume many other food items that need mention and discussion in the public arena among those that understand that any amount of radioactive contamination in our food or drink is never going to be safe for the public to consume.

While radiation in milk is indeed a serious issue, so is radiation in any of our foods that the public consume.

While everyone has taken note of the milk because of the measurements noted, someone should immediately begin to assess just how all this increased levels of radiation will effect the pineapple industry, almond growers, wine industry and all the grapes, raisins and mostly the wine that will be made from contaminated wine grapes that will sold for consumers to drink.

While the California wine industry has been quiet about all this radioactive concern, their silence is viewed as protecting their profits from annual sales of wine which appear to moving ahead as if Japan had ever happened.

Almonds, oranges, wine grapes, celery, and any number of other California crops are all impacted by the increasing radioactive measurements.

It is time to assess the other industries as to what will impact the long term consumers of such products. I mean really, do you not care what is in that refreshing and expensive bottle of wine? Well I do, and so should the public.

To begin this process, we should demand that the wine industries and food growers exhibit moral decisions about their grapes and wines because to sell them to the public knowing it will eventually kill all those that consume it, is taking greed and corporatism to the level of evil and immorality that this nation is already tired of and in need of some relief from.

Begin asking the wine industry about how all this radioactivity will effect their wines and you will quickly see that once again, greed and profits matter more than the public’s safety.

It is this type of business greed that has already helped to undermine what is good for America and we can expect that big business will never accept a big hit in the profits margin unless the public demands it.

Hold all those that provide foods or drinks to the public accountable, but to be fair, we should also hold criminally accountable those corporations and elected officials and federal regulatory agencies that license and promote nuclear energy at the expense of public safety.

As a reminder, please remember that we cant truthfully eat the shrimp or sea food from the Gulf of Mexico even though they have declared it fit for human consumption and so the next time you are having some white fish and some wine , consider that what you are eating or drinking is as risky as playing Russian roulette with three bullets instead of one in a six shot revolver.

Please ask about the wine and other California food items. Only by doing so will the nation begin to see that all this radioactive concern will be aggravated by those in big business that will not admit that their products are in any way contaminated to the point of public concern.

Stop the madness and stop those industries that would endanger the public’s health and long term safety.

Question that fine wine the next time to drink a bottle of fine wine and consider if it is contaminated or not and whether you have the right to know if you are drinking radioactive poison that will soon kill you in cancerous ways.

Asking the wine industry to begin talking about what they do not want to talk about and soon you and others will begin to see that only greed matters and nothing about the public safety is going to make these industries any money if they do what is in the best interests of the public. To ensure this fact, they bribe the federal agencies and the elected officials to make sure that whatever they do is legal to do so. Big business demand no accountability for their actions and so to get that consideration, they bribe those that regulate or officiate, so that their actions are free from any liability.

Ask about radioactive particles in that milk and food products, but don't forget that the California wine industry is being impacted in a big way and if we do not hold the wine industry accountable, I have no doubt such corporations will pass on their contaminated products with no concern for the immorality it represents to the nation and to all the nations that such wine exports eventually end up for public consumption.



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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Greetings! To fight radiation drink lots of good liquids. Take a boron capsule every day and give to your fur ball. (Dairy farmers give it to cows to keep radiation out of milk.) Graviola fights cancer at the cellular level. Also, VitC, D3, and E capsules.Good prices at Swanson Vitamins.
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Those "sealed" with the Names of the Father and Son (Yahweh and Yahshua) will survive these end time plagues! Revelation 14:1 Yahshua is returning SOON and no New World Order can stop Him! Halleluyah! (Hebrew word meaning "Praise ye Yah". ) Peace through Them!



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 10:35 AM
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So does this mean we are all going to become superheros now?
I want my special power to be flatulence or wish granting. Perhaps a farting leprechaun or something of the sort.



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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Whatever use of the microwave in your kitchen provides radiation. It was never a safe thing to put on market for the public. www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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Thought you might find this interesting as well.

It appears that the radiation found in the milk in hawaii is 600% abve safe drinking water limits.

theintelhub.com...



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 09:15 PM
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I do not think TPTB will ever tell us what we need to know to stay safe. I don't feel safe on the East coast.
This is a real tragedy and we will never see the end of the problems caused by the Earthquake and Tsunami.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by JohnySeagull
I suppose the easiest thing to do is just blame it all on Japan.

Lets take this news:

Radioactive leaks found at 75% of US nuke sites

and hide it under the carpet.

www.cbsnews.com...
Greetings:

We agree with you and offer the following tidbits for consideration.

We have been sounding the alarm for some time in this thread:

America's Being Nuked - Can we Together Stop the Madness?

And this:

Will America's Nuclear Power Plants Fail in an 8.0 Earthquake?

And this:

Is This the Beginning of the End of Nuclear Power in the U.S.?

And now, let's take this news:


(...)
That level of water will inundate the pumps and generators at this facility.

Barring the dam failure, there is no way to resupply the plant with the diesel needed to keep the generators running by land.

Not sure where the tanks are right now but I sure as hell hope they thought to put them well above ground so that they can be refueled by watercraft.
edit on 27-6-2011 by SFA437


Do you mean these tanks?

Many containers of fuel to power pumps were washed away after breach at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant


Event Number: 46989
Facility: FORT CALHOUN
Event Date: 06/26/2011
Event Time: 10:45 [CDT]

Event Text
OFFSITE NOTIFICATION DUE TO PETROLEUM RELEASE TO THE MISSOURI RIVER

“At approximately 0125 CDT, the AquaDam providing enhanced flood protection for Fort Calhoun Station Unit 1 failed. This resulted in [color=limegreen]approximately 100 gallons of petroleum being released into the river after a protective barrier was breached and many fuel containers were washed out to the river. The fuel/oil containers were staged around the facility to supply fuel for pumps which remove water within the flood containment barriers. The spill was reported to the State of Nebraska at 10:45 AM CDT on 6/26/2011.

What were these fuel containers that only 100 gallons were contained in "many?"

Were they those red plastic 5-gallon containers and were just sitting next to the pumps when the water came in?

How much water does it take to float one of these puppies over the "containment barrier" into the river? (Let's see... gas about 6.1 lbs/gal x 5 = about 30.5 lbs to float away - about 35 lbs if it was 5 gallons of diesel.)

What happened to "being prepared for any eventuality?"

17 June 2011
‘Event’ reported at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant: 'Potential flooding issue in the Intake Structure'
— “There is one penetration of concern” that could impact water pumps


Operations identified a potential flooding issue in the Intake Structure 1007 ft. 6 in. level. The area of concern is a the hole in the floor at the 1007 ft. 6 in. level where the relief valve from FP-1A discharge pipe goes through the raw pump bay and discharges into the intake cell. There is one penetration of concern. [color=limegreen]Flooding through this penetration could have impacted the ability of the station’s Raw Water (RW) pumps to perform their design accident mitigation functions.

Efforts are in progress to seal the penetration.(...)

Again with the cooling pumps... and that was ten (10) days ago.

16 June 2011
Licensee Event Report 2011-003, Revision 1, for the Fort Calhoun Station, NRC, May 16, 2011


As a result of a Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) inspection conducted from January 1 to June 21, 2010, the NRC determined that Fort Calhoun Station (FCS) did not have adequate procedures to protect the intake structure and auxiliary building against external flooding events.
[...]
As a result of the penetrations not being sealed, the intake structure was vulnerable to water inflow during an extreme flooding event. This [color=limegreen]inflow had the potential to affect the operability of both trains of safety related raw water pumps (ultimate heat sink).


On February 4, 2011, an eight (8) hour report was made under 10 CFR 50.72 (b)(3)(v)(D) to the NRC Headquarters Operation Office (HOO) at 1717 CST (Event Number (EN) 46594). [color=limegreen]The report should have been made on September 9, 2009.

Only five (5) months later. It almost seem as though this facility is being run by the inmates - or there is a complete lack of pride in work across the board - nobody gives a damn and the peeps are there only to get a paycheck. That lackluster attitude might work in a car wash, but this is a nuclear facility!

An interesting document:


NRC FORM 366A (10-2010)

During identification and evaluation of flood barriers, unsealed through-wall penetrations in the outside wall of the intake, auxiliary and chemistry and radiation protection buildings were identified that are below the licensing basis flood elevation.

A summary of the root causes included:

1) a weak procedure revision process;

2) insufficient oversight of work activities associated with external flood matters;

3) ineffective identification, evaluation and resolution of performance deficiencies related to external flooding;

4) and "safe as is” mindsets [color=limegreen]relative to external flooding events.


(...)
SAFETY SIGNIFICANCE

The [color=limegreen]Fort Calhoun Station is required to be protected from flooding within the station’s licensing basis. The safety-related equipment required to mitigate the consequences of an accident were affected by these findings.

The openings could have jeopardized the ability of the safety-related equipment to perform their design basis function during an accident. Other methods of removing decay heat and mitigating the consequences of a flooding event were available.

Interesting... so the NRC indicates that there are other methods of removing decay heat.

Just what are these "other methods" that do not involve pumps powered by electricity?

And why are they not being used in Fukushima in any way?

Other headlines to peruse, if one so chooses:

27 June 2011

100% chance of reactor core damage if floodwaters went above 1010 ft. at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant, NRC said in 2010
— River now around 1,007 ft. and expected to rise

Now, that is a fearmonger headline... hmmmmmmmmm...

Another false flag to divert attention from what's really happening?

This to divert attention from:

1) The radiation that is now threatening to harm every living thing in the United States forever.

2) The dams upriver as far as Montana from Fort Calhoun Nuclear Plant and Cooper Nuclear Plant about to flood.

3) The dumping of millions and millions of gallons of highly-radiated water into the Pacific Ocean by TEPCO in Japan.

4) The report of contamination 7.5 million times the legal limit in Fukushima area - and that is only what they are admitting to.

5) The fact that [color=limegreen]all the foodstuffs in the fields in North America are being radiated on a daily basis - 24 hours a day - and there is no end in sight!

6) The fact that virtually all of the land-based food and now the sea food has been radiated to some degree in Japan.

7) The fact that an area the size of Manhattan (about 17% of Japan) is now uninhabitable because of elevated radiation levels.

I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!

There is no safe level of radionuclide exposure, whether from food, water or other sources.

[color=limegreen]Period.

Exposure to radionuclides, such as iodine-131 and cesium-137, increases the incidence of cancer. For this reason, every effort must be taken to minimize the radionuclide content in food and water.

via Physicians for Social Responsibility, psr.org

Thank you for your time and consideration and we look forward to further communication and possible collaboration.

These challenges to life and sanity on this planet must be met with clear minds and sound hearts - onward through the fog!

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw


Epilogue:


The United States will be destroyed, land and people, by atomic bombs and radioactivity. Only the Hopis and their homeland will be preserved as an oasis to which refugees will flee. Bomb shelters are a fallacy. It is only materialistic people who seek to make shelters. Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the great shelter of life. There is no shelter for evil. Those who take no part in the making of world division by ideology are ready to resume life in another world, be they Black, White, Red, or Yellow race. They are all one, brothers.

The True White Brother will bring with him two great, intelligent and powerful helpers, one of whom will have a sign of a swastika (a masculine symbol of purity), and the sign of the sun. The second great helper will have the sign of a celtic cross with red lines (representing female life blood) between the arms of the cross.

[color=limegreen]When the Great Purification is near, these helpers will shake the earth first for a short time in preparation. After they shake the earth two times more, they will be joined by the True White Brother, who will become one with them and bring the Purification Day to the world. All three will help the "younger brother" (the Hopi and other pure-hearted people) to make a better world. In the prophecies, the two helpers are designated by the Hopi word for "population," as if they were large groups of people.

The True White Brother and his helpers will show the people of earth a great new life plan that will lead to everlasting life. The earth will become new and beautiful again, with an abundance of life and food. Those who are saved will share everything equally. All races will intermarry and speak one tongue and be a family.


"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease."


The signs are interpreted as follows:

The First Sign is of guns.

The Second Sign is of the pioneers' covered wagons.

The Third Sign is of longhorn cattle. The Fourth Sign describes the railroad tracks.

The Fifth Sign is a clear image of our electric power and telephone lines.

The Sixth Sign describes concrete highways and their mirage-producing effects.

The Seventh Sign foretells of oil spills in the ocean.

The Eighth Sign clearly indicates the "Hippy Movement" of the 1960s.

The Ninth Sign was the U.S. Space Station Skylab, which fell to Earth in 1979.
According to Australian eye-witnesses, it appeared to be burning blue.

The Hopi also predicted that when the "heart" of the Hopi land trust is dug up, great disturbances will develop in the balance of nature, for the [color=limegreen]Hopi holy land is the microcosmic image of the entire planet; any violations of nature in the Four Corners region will be reflected and amplified all over the Earth.
Rainbow



Thank you for your time and consideration and we look forward to further communication and collaboration.

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw
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posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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So far we just had regular poisoning food as McDonald's, Coke and the like... now they come with a new special ingredient: Radiaton!!



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 07:02 PM
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This does not seem too important. We can deal with small amounts of radiation



posted on Jul, 18 2011 @ 11:39 AM
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I live in cali and have a 2 year old. The fact that my county is currently NOT doing any testing of its water supply or food chain (I called and asked my rep why, got hung up on) is really pissing me off. It's like they are saying " our budget crisis caused by my hummer and hookers is preventing your children from being kept safe, sorry". Anyone have a time machine? I would love to go back to a time when there wasn't so much to hide...or be afraid of.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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I wish Geiger Counters that read everything you need to know weren't
SO dang expensive!! It seems like everyone should own one...I'm barely hanging on a thread
to survive so I know I won't be getting one & I don't know anyone who has one. It seems
that at least one company could see the real need & concern & try to do something to help the people.

Cheers
Ektar





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