The Invasion of ATS

Invasion of ATS? Or more people expressing their opinion? I don't agree with many posters on this site. But I would never label what they do as an invasion. When you isolate, categorize a group of people with similar issues and call it an invasion you're stepping real close to infringing on ANYONE'S right to freely express themselves.
I haven't been here for long, but I can imagine a time when many threads were filled with nothing but love and adoration for the progressive movement. Cycles. Things come and go. Ebb and flow.

Try a nice cup of tea. Relax and ignore the neocons. They'll slowly dissappear over time, too busy beating down the common worker and exploiting the masses to post here.

While the neo-cons are definitely polarizing the right, I see the left doing absolutely nothing to help their side look any better!
There is no solution at this point. There will be no handshakes, and pats on the back. Our system is dying because of the indifference of the baby boomers! For 40 years they took and took and took and now there is nothing left. They raped our country, destroyed our lands and filled their pockets. neo cons and the aclu are what we have as a result

reply to post by sheepslayer247


It's because they have such a cool nick name: neocons

We need one too, how about tradcons? Traditional Conservatives

Reocons- real conservatives?

Con-cons- Constitutional conservatives?

None of them quite do it justice

reply to post by Skippy1138


Yet another post exhibiting the exact manta I discussed.

If you would have read the thread you would have known I'm not an Obama fan.

THANK GOD I HAVE A SHORT ATTENTION SPAN.

I forgot the point by the end of the post.

Yay!

That means everything is good.

And damn you cliffs notes!

reply to post by sheepslayer247


welcome to 2008, man. Soon as they opened this place up to political jibberjabber, it went from a fine (if... eccentic) site, and turned into what it is today.

Stormfront with flying saucers.

reply to post by sheepslayer247


yes!

you are giving a quintessential example of a troll!


thank you for making it very clear!

now everyone can be identified.



maybe you are the repressed liberal? the neo-con whipping boy? the innocent proletariat?


love you guys! so......what?

It's funny, you know? People are so obsessed with which party is right and which is more hypocritical, when it seems to me that there is not much of a difference in either one. Sure you have the emotionally divisive issues such as abortion (which regardless of the politicians feelings, is legal), gun control, etc. But when it comes to things like foreign and economic policy, both sides do the same things. For example, Bush bailed out the banks/ insurance companies etc. Liberals were mad. Obama bailed out the auto industry. Conservatives were mad. They both kept Bush's tax cuts in place. Bush started 2 wars. Obama has those two plus Libya and a bombing campaign in Syria. Right wingers say Obama is leading us into communism. Left wingers say he hasn't done enough to regulate the economy. In reality, probably the best way to describe our economy is neither socialist or free market, but economic royalism. The market cannot be called free if it is regulated, which it is. And it is regulated so that corporations receive most of the benefit of said regulations. Corporations are designated as people, legally, and human people actually have less rights than corporate people. Example: corporations' right to donate unlimited funds to political campaigns. In reality, it seems, the parties don't matter, and we the people lose. Thanks for listening to my rant.

reply to post by sheepslayer247


Why isn't this in the Rant Forum??

That's all it really is right ??

reply to post by sheepslayer247

They claim to understand and defend the constitution, yet they are willing to defend the actions of Republicans that contradict the constitution! Some good examples would be the Patriot act, gay marriage,

Could you please show me where gay marriage is referred to in the Constitution? Can you show me any founding father who espoused support for it?
I respect the rest of the issues you mention, and for the most part agree. However, gay marriage would(IMO) never have been supported by any of the founding fathers.

WHAT is Above Top Secret about the 2012 election? The fact it's rigged? It 's THE most BORING and IRRELEVANT subject on this site.

Only real suckers are interested in 2012 election. Y' all voted for MORE murder and lies just by ticking that box LAST TIME. . Ye lined up to do it. Congratulations : ye gave Obama carte blanche. Ye total idiots, ye never learn.

Whats the 2012 election doing on Ats ANYWAY? Bringing a moron invasion from left right and centre.

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We open up the front door...invite everyone in and ask them to give their opinion in all manner of subjects and news topics and religion and politics...

And then get frustrated and seem suprised when they do just that.

Don't get upset when people do what you ask them to do.

The observation you've made on political chatter can be made on UFO vs no-UFO, Nazi Moon Base vs no Nazi Moon Base, theist vs atheist, left vs right, Nibiru vs Elenin vs brown dwarf, ...and so it goes.

This is a free forum with free minded peoples that usually don't share the same views. Heck, we even have footage from 16 different viewpoints of the Twin towers collapse..and we can't all agree on that...hologram vs pyrotechnics vs control demolition vs actual terrorists attack vs false flag vs did it even really happen...

We discuss things here that we would never discuss in the open work place...because it does create conflict, disagreement, moral and ethical outrage, political debate... that's why ATS is here...also to make some money for the owners, too...but that is beside the point.

Frankly, if you can't handle verbal discourse and mental sparring...even if it is with mental midgets at time, perhaps it best to avoid the mental field of battle all together.

Turn it into Youtube then , and use up everyone's credibility at one go. Hope you make your fortunes because the nouveau-riche can afford to be (forward) thinkers. There'll be a gap in the market for someone else

Oh-My-God......another all nonsense post here on ATS.....

This site has become the biggest joke. What a bunch of crap.....................but, it's fun to watch.

reply to post by sonofliberty1776


It doesn't state anything about gay marriage in the constitution, or even hetero marriage for that matter. So why do we regulate either one? Do you think the founding fathers sat around and said" Hey, we gotta make sure that gay people can't get married."?

That's why we see the religious argument come up all the time. There is no constitutional mandate for banning it, and it states in the constitution that we have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If people want to get gay-married, let them. We have no reason to ban it.

reply to post by fooks


Troll?

Maybe you are unable to debate me on the issue at hand, and therefore you must revert to irrelavant banter by calling me a troll.

I find it amazing that so many people just write a quick response, yet have no argument against my OP.

So much for debating the issue.

reply to post by backinblack


Believe me, if this was a rant the mods would have moves it rather quickly.

I think it hasn't been moved because I actually have a good point in regards to this issue. Many of these posts on this thread show a deep-rooted NeoCon propaganda machine at work. Many of you don't know it because you are too blind to notice.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Stratus9

 

And yes they hire posters to hit blog and news story comment sections and of course, politically focused forums such as these.

Both sides do that,

Sorry, but they do not. Liberal causes do not generate billions in profits as conservative 'causes' do.
These neocons are pro mega corporation, anti-education, anti-human rights, anti-environment.
Why?

Not because they basically hate nature, old people, education, etc.

They put profits first and educating the young, protecting the earth, and promoting human rights can cut the profit margin. If you can't completely clear cut a forest of trees, you lose a few pennies per upright tree.
If you can't poison the air to your hearts content- you have to spend money on pollution scrubbers.
If you educate the young- they become wise to your history of abuses.
If you support old folks and human rights - you have to feed 'worthless' mouths.

These are the basis of their belief system and political ideology.

Since my livelihood has nothing to do with this site, why should I care who invades it?

attack and marginalize something a neocon does.

i have yet to see an ats user use it in the proper context.

i can sit here and say the left is more neocon that the right at the moment.

hip hip horrah for spreading freedom and democracy in the middle east and no i aint talkin bout bush.

i am talking about the current potus of this country and his followers.