Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn (Study)

If you really believe this is honest psychology, are people that act the same way toward pedophiles also secret pedophiles? Are people that act the same way toward racists secret racists? Now does this theory sound stupid to you? I hope so....

More agenda pushing nonsense. Who is funding this study I wonder and why exactly is it being done? Complete rubbish in my opinion.

Originally posted by Helious
More agenda pushing nonsense. Who is funding this study I wonder and why exactly is it being done? Complete rubbish in my opinion.

Yet here you are pushing an agenda that has actually existed for more than 4000 years

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Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood

Originally posted by Helious
More agenda pushing nonsense. Who is funding this study I wonder and why exactly is it being done? Complete rubbish in my opinion.

Yet here you are pushing an agenda that has actually existed for more than 4000 years

edit on 11-6-2011 by TheOrangeBrood because: (no reason given)

How about this agenda? I do not care who you bugger. I refuse to judge your character by your sexual orientation, and refuse to be told that I have to judge you by your sexual orientation. If homosexuals want to wake up each morning and identify themselves by who they have sex with, this is their business, it is just none of mine. I don't want to be lectured about how some group has been harmed. I am concerned with the individual rights of all people, and their sexual orientation neither diminishes those rights, nor does it give them special privilege above and beyond the rights of other individuals.

There is no such thing as "gay rights" any more than there is such a thing as "woman's rights", or "minority rights". There are only rights, and if it is a right, it belongs to everyone on an individual basis, is not granted by government but exists as an unalienable natural phenomenon, and any "legal rights" often translated into "civil rights" do not have any lawful authority to diminish the natural rights of all people.

A gay person got beat up for being gay, you say? That person's individual right was violated, not because he was gay, but because he is. Cogito ergo sum. It matters not who is buggering who, and sexual politics belongs in the bedroom. Any gay person who agrees with this is someone I can align myself with, not because they are gay, but because they understand the root cause of freedom. Any gay person who disagrees with my arguments, I will not align myself with them, and it will have nothing at all to do with their sexual orientation, and everything to do with their politics.

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Interesting perspective. If being gay is a choice as some some claim, does this mean those people that claim this have decided after thinking about engaging in homosexual acts to not engage in their thoughts. I always though people that claim it is a choice, must have been tempted to be gay at some point and decided not to right?

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As a gay person, I have to say I completely agree with this. Im tired of the labels put on both by "fellow homosexuals" and "opposing heterosexuals". I do not go to pride parades, I cannot relate to them, it throws a label on me that doesn't fit who I am. Im proud of alot of things but sexuality is a weird thing to have pride in. Maybe that first time you scored with someone and had to tell all your high school buddies about would be an example of pride, but once we grow up, do we honestly feel a sense of pride when we have sex or are we just happy and drained (lol).
I even hate using the sentence "as a gay person" it's almost ridiculous as saying "as a man/woman who has sex with other men/women" or for heterosexuals to go around "as a man/woman who has sex with other women/man". I don't want "gay" as the first describing word in my autobiography.

Star for you, thanks for being logical and for the for once refreshing comment.

Come on, now. How many people actually still believe this filth? Seriously.


reply to post by lestweforget

Well said, even if I disagree with the notion that homosexuality is a choice (which seems to be what you're implying).


reply to post by TKDRL

Exactly what I've always thought about this ridiculous theory. Perhaps someone here could address this?


reply to post by TheOrangeBrood

WHAT?????

reply to post by topherman420


I read letters to the editor in the opinion section quite regularly. Whenever there is some issue about homosexuality in the news, invariably somebody writes a letter that begins:

"As the proud parent of a gay son..."

Implicit in this language is that the parent raised their son to be gay, otherwise why be a "proud parent of a gay son"? I can assume that what they mean to say is they have a gay son, and are proud of him none-the-less, but I am, by the choice of their language, forced to make that assumption, on their behalf.

Either language speaks us, or we speak language. When language speaks us, we become the effect of the language speaking us. When we speak language we are cause over that language. In this regard, choices can, and arguably should be made. It may not be a choice to be gay, but it is most assuredly a choice to parade about declaring pride in being gay. Of course, if someone wants to do this, they have the right to do so, and it is a right I will defend up until my dying breath. Conversely, if someone is offended by this proud parade of sexual orientation, that person has as much a right to voice their opinion, as does the proud parader. This is how rights work.

Nobody should have to suffer the denial or disparagement of a right for any reason. When we can all make the choice to agree on this, we will all be better for it. Clearly you've made the choice to be cause rather than effect. Clearly you've chosen to identify yourself by your character - dare I say ego? - and not your biological desires - dare I say id? In this modern world where a plethora of propaganda is thrown at us to convince us that it is the ego that is the problem, without even acknowledging there is an id that is far more problematic, it is even more imperative we engage in critical thought. Are gay people capable of this critical thought? Of course they are, and you have just handily demonstrated this.

Originally posted by topherman420
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As a gay person, I have to say I completely agree with this. Im tired of the labels put on both by "fellow homosexuals" and "opposing heterosexuals". I do not go to pride parades, I cannot relate to them, it throws a label on me that doesn't fit who I am.

In a perfect world - - - which this isn't.

Awareness is very important for acceptance and equal rights. I blame the media for the stereotyping of Gay Pride.

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In a perfect world - - - which this isn't.

Awareness is very important for acceptance and equal rights. I blame the media for the stereotyping of Gay Pride.

We live on a planet that is just the right amount of distance from the sun to allow for environmental factors friendly to life. Beyond that we have a moon that is just the right amount of distance to tilt the earth on its axis, further facilitating this friendly environment for life. How much more perfect would you like this world to be?

People do not have to be aware of a person's sexual proclivities in order to understand the simple, true, universal and absolute law of rights. Outside of self defense, defense of property, or defense of the helpless, we do not have any right to harm another, and being aware of homosexuality will do nothing at all to change that.

Blame who you will, blame is, quite simply, irrelevant. When we all learn to treat others with the respect that natural rights demands, then we will be better for it. It does not take special classes in sexual or gender awareness to make this happen, it takes an understanding that none of us have the right to unjustly harm another. That is all it takes. Nothing more.

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This I can agree with, and with the massive amounts of people that flock to Toronto every year im sure they are all for that boom in the cities economy and will be all for promoting it each and every year.

Though there are lots of in your face attractions, that personally I found offensive and I didnt see a point in showing or how it related to "rights" or hate motivated crime. I don't think sexuality is a culture, Im not sure why I need a specific place sectioned out in Toronto coined as "The Village" as the "gay area".

I think the intent is mainly good but poorly poorly misguided and sending out a very incorrect message to people.

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Hi
First of all- do you see the demagogic tricks used to change the reality?
Medical (so sugesting something morbid,) term- homoxexuality- is being replaced by stupid and inadequate - "gay" .
Do you really believe that so called-"g a y s" are really -happier more -gay that the straight people??
In fact, sorry for you, but the most visible "gays" are sullen, agressive, manly-looking, military style shaven lesbians and sad elderly men lurkin in the dark places like public rest rooms.

On the other hand- "h o m o p h o b e"- the most cherished curse word used by the "gay"-homosexual activists against whoever is not entusiastic enough to their, no not even their livestyle, but simply their aggresive propaganda, so called- "prides" etc.
Its pseudomedical to suggest that whoever is against them is himself or herself somehow abnormal, so needs kind of "antyhomophobic therapy"...I wonder- will it be just obligatory looking the films (as for me the lesbian ones mostly Ok ) like mentioned in the Op or something more obscure...God safe us

Do you remember- its been not so long time since -homosexuality- was removed from the list of the pathologies...

Give me enough money and I will be able to create lobby and find enough of the "independent experts" to prove perfectly normal whatever imaginable perversion...

Pedophilia- its already underway...

Zoophilia? no problem- its only "alternative sexual orientation"

Necropihilia? well...not so easy, but yes we can...
simply give me some extra money

The point is: stop messing with us and the world of the traditional values, which surely is not perfect but only because of it you are able even think abaut your petty "rebelions".

Think a moment- you destroy finally that "opressive" "straight" world and what then? there is not any "happily ever after" because even if the campaign you unleash will not backfire, anyway the new world will be not at all as you imagine.

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0

One study asked heterosexal men how comfortable and anxious they are around gay men. Based on these scores, they then divided these men into two groups: men that are homophobic, and men who are not. These men were then shown three, four minute videos. One video depicted straight sex, one depicted lesbian sex and one depicted gay male sex. While this was happening, a device was attached to the male participant's penises. This device has been found to be triggered by sexual arousal, but not other types of arousal (such as nervousness, or fear - arousal often has a very different meaning in psychology than in popular usage).

When viewing lesbian sex and straight sex, both the homophobic and the non-homophobic men showed increased penis circumference. For gay male sex, however, only the homophobic men showed heightened penis arousal.

Heterosexual men with the most anti-gay attitudes, when asked, reported not being sexually aroused by gay male sex videos. But, their penises reported otherwise.

Homophobic men were the most sexually aroused by gay male sex acts.

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This reminds me of the scene from American Beauty when the nazi male neighbor mistakes the main characters intentions and trys to initiate intercourse with him, thus revealing his true feelings.

I'm not sure what to believe, could it have been a false positive? Or are those who are homophobic just trying to cover something up? Is this a defense mechanism?

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This topic=Fail. Interesting concept but a study with only 29 participants and with clear bias(also using methods described by some as being "voodoo magic", the method used [attaching a device to the genital's] is only used in a few states sex offender programs and those are the states often eluded to when one would utter "inbred American community") from researchers with a pro-gay agenda(in short this study if taken seriously would enable pro-gay's to say "what do you have against gay's? Are you gay or something?" type shaming language.

But it is always interesting what the sociopathic left is up too.

While I'm sure there are a number of homophobic people who overcompensate for latent homosexual urges by obnoxiously and vociferousfly denouncing homosexuality and homosexuals, I don't think it's correct to use this line of thinking as the basis to explain the reason for all instances of homophobia.

It doesn't really make sense on a psychological level, as it denies the reality that some people are just intolerant and prejudiced towards other people with different physical or personality traits.

In reality, we all know that, in most cases, accusing homophobes of being gay is a borderline ad hominem attack which is intended to rile the homophobe. I doubt that most people genuinely believe that most, or all, anti-gay people are closet homosexuals.

Do these people assume that racists secretly want to belong to one of the races that they dislike ? Or that Islamophobes are desperately repressing their uncontrollable urge to pray to Mecca five times a day ?