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it's been obvious for awhile now that those who speak out the most about something are hiding somethnig about themselves

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It surely says a lot about what many of us thought about the christian attitudes toward gays

Remember this bigoted tosser




Several times in threads on ATS I've questioned the sexuality of christians demonstratin homophobic bigotry.

Do we now have the proof that christians are drawn to wicked bible doctrines that preach hate, because they in fact are externalising their own self hatred by attacking others who have accepted their own cimpulsions ?

Calling people biggot, homophobe, racist, antisemite, etc which are all meant to be derogatory..... Is somehow not breaking the manners and decorum?

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No more than calling someone a sinner, demonic, ignorant, infidel, hateful etc

How is this Abovetopsecret at all? Why do I have to be bombarded with sexual posts and gay posts?

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Was it not your fingers that clicked on the thread topic ?

Considering the thread topic one has to wonder about your sexuality given your seeming revultion toward the subject of sex between consenting adults. Do you by chance struggle with your own sexuality ?

Personally I struggle with my hetrosexuality as I am very envious of many gay mens' ability to to find willing partners so easily and their seemingly magnetic abilty to put damned fine looking women at ease.

Originally posted by topherman420
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

 

As a gay person, I have to say I completely agree with this. Im tired of the labels put on both by "fellow homosexuals" and "opposing heterosexuals". I do not go to pride parades, I cannot relate to them, it throws a label on me that doesn't fit who I am.

So ignorant.

Pride parades do not evoke anything but acceptance.

It's not a contest. It's about fighting for EQUAL rights.

You would know that if you actually went to one to know what the hell you're talking about, but alas...

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I don't disagree with any of that.

This thread is not about "homosexuals vs. heterosexuals" as you would assume/like, however.

Since nowhere near all heterosexuals are "homophobic".

I'm not sure where your little rant came from, actually.

It's not like "the gays" are the ones who tried to make sexual orientation some sort of competition.

They're just the ones that have to have rocks chucked at them, insults hurled, denied financial benefits for their families, and kill themselves out of a lack of social acceptance. Finding out why this is happening is not okay, though, apparently, because they're "rubbing it in your face"? That's really bloody tragic, kids; real tragic.

Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood

Originally posted by topherman420
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

 

As a gay person, I have to say I completely agree with this. Im tired of the labels put on both by "fellow homosexuals" and "opposing heterosexuals". I do not go to pride parades, I cannot relate to them, it throws a label on me that doesn't fit who I am.

So ignorant.

Pride parade do not evoke anything but acceptance.

It's not a contest. It's about fighting for EQUAL rights.

You would know that if you actually went to one to know what the hell you're talking about, but alas...

edit on 12-6-2011 by TheOrangeBrood because: (no reason given)

As ive said on another post (the gay threads are popping up everywhere) I have gone to one.....those people werent me, they didnt portray rights to me, they didnt get the message clearly across. Im ignorant because I don't feel that the parade and events portrayed who I am or gay rights? Well Im sorry you feel that way.
Thats why I don't go to gay pride parades anymore (maybe i should of said anymore so we could of avoided the ignorant part), they are my personal reasons and beliefs, and I wont change them just because im gay.

Originally posted by topherman420
As ive said on another post (the gay threads are popping up everywhere) I have gone to one.....those people werent me, they didnt portray rights to me, they didnt get the message clearly across. Im ignorant because I don't feel that the parade and events portrayed who I am or gay rights? Well Im sorry you feel that way.
Thats why I don't go to gay pride parades anymore (maybe i should of said anymore so we could of avoided the ignorant part), they are my personal reasons and beliefs, and I wont change them just because im gay.

I'm curious as to where this "Pride" event was and who it was sponsored by?

And what they subscribed to that you did not agree with?

Pride events opened my eyes to Uganda, American Marriage Laws, suicide rates among young male homosexuals... the list goes on.

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by The Djin

 

It still doesn't make sense why hurling some insults are allowed, and others aren't. When you call someone any of those things, you aren't paying them a compliment, they have negative implications attached to them.

Indeed, but we have to be careful not to condemn someone for using those types of words to deride an action and not a person.

Originally posted by TKDRL
It is pretty annoying that politically correct insults are allowed here. Calling people biggot, homophobe, racist, antisemite, etc which are all meant to be derogatory..... Is somehow not breaking the manners and decorum?

I think that it's fair, in the context of a discussion, to use these terms if the poster has provided overt evidence to support the accusation. However, these terms are more often used as a dishonest debating tactic to stifle dissent and, as you say, to get around a T&C violation by using a pejorative ( and, in real life, slanderous ) word in the hope that it sticks like mud to another member.

I think that it mainly comes down to the unfalsifiability of the slur. In most cases, terms like ''racist'' and ''homophobe'' are thrown around like confetti, without it ever being possible to successfully refute these claims.

A perfect example is the frivolous use of the race-card by Obama supporters when he's getting some heavy criticism. Retorts along the lines of ''you just don't like the fact that there's a black man in the White House'' are used to thwart criticism which made no allusion to his race.

How would someone go about proving that their dislike of Obama or his policies is not racially motivated ? It requires proving a negative, which can't be done. This is why that mode of debating is so intellectually dishonest, but sadly effective.

In the current climate, an accusation of racism or homophobia can not be interpreted as anything other than a slur and an insult, yet it can be used with impunity towards posters who have made posts which do not in any way reasonably indicate that they hold these views.

It's certainly a loophole that gets exploited to the max by the Politically Correct brigade, usually at the expense of fair and intelligent discussion.

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Pride in Toronto, Ontario. What I saw there was not something that portrayed me or what I perceive gay to be, which is basic sexuality and human emotions. I don't feel like its some sort of culture that needs its identity or that it needs odd displays of men in very little leather dancing on floats or that condom promotion needs to be done with "trojan Horses" (men painted silver wearing trojan roman skirts and nothing else). It to me is showing that sex is a dominant feature of being gay or that is some sort of pillar in this culture. I find it excessive and too much and feel its overpowering the actual message of rights and equal treatment that everyone deserves.
While there was alot of people there that year (toronto pride is pretty big) there may be alot with very intolerant views looking at this on television missing out on some of the small things you dont see at street level and at booths and tents.

I see you made an edit, and I am glad you were able to pull something from that experience. Yes those things people should be aware of. I am not saying that it should be stopped, or its a complete waste, but the general impression, the name of the festival "pride" it didnt resonate with me, any important messages I picked out of the nonsense did.

Originally posted by topherman420
reply to post by TheOrangeBrood

 

Pride in Toronto, Ontario. What I saw there was not something that portrayed me or what I perceive gay to be, which is basic sexuality and human emotions. I don't feel like its some sort of culture that needs its identity or that it needs odd displays of men in very little leather dancing on floats or that condom promotion needs to be done with "trojan Horses" (men painted silver wearing trojan roman skirts and nothing else). It to me is showing that sex is a dominant feature of being gay or that is some sort of pillar in this culture. I find it excessive and too much and feel its overpowering the actual message of rights and equal treatment that everyone deserves.
While there was alot of people there that year (toronto pride is pretty big) there may be alot with very intolerant views looking at this on television missing out on some of the small things you dont see at street level and at booths and tents.

It's how the parade has to be held to get funding. Toronto Pride is huge, and those floats are usually a bunch of straight guys that are paid by the company to create an advertisement on a float. That is how the events are payed for so that stages can be set up for sociopolitical comedians, singers, and speakers; it's the reason people can march with their signs and banners that touch on real issues.

The "gay culture" advertising aspect is very much just an assumption for gay advertising made by heterosexuals.

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Im not worried about paranoids who think the parade is meant to encourage people to change their sexuality, they are just delusional.
I just have a problem with what im supposed to be labelled as, or whom I am grouped in with based on sexuality. I even hate the fact I use the word gay, but I guess I need a quick adjective for my sexuality.
Maybe im a prude? I dont know, these are my beliefs and feelings.

Maybe they got turned on when that string started choking their big guy. Some people get excited when they're dominated or put into a corner. If I was religious, I think the effect would be even stronger. You would feel guilty for participating in the study. Then you would think satan is trying to turn you evil. So whole idea is being dominated sexually arouses them.

I think the smallest most trivial things can make jimmy grow. Easy to mistake it.