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what a U.S soldier has to think about the war.

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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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this man has courage to say what he says. its time to see the truth behind what are american soldiers have to say.




posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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here I embeded it for you



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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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thanks!



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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Old news but yep for sure, we put our boys into the sausage grinder for the corporate dollar.
Too bad their wasn't a higher minimum age for service.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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Every time I see this video I laugh a little bit more. The voice in the background belongs to Mike Prysner a ground surveillance radar operator with the 10th Mountain Division. I guess being a shill for the "Party for Socialism and Liberation" gets him more tail than his former life. I wouldn’t denigrate someone’s service because he wasn’t a Snake Eater or a hard core ground pounder, but Prysner doesn’t even have a CAB so I really have a difficult time believing he saw everything he claims he did staring at a computer screen all day.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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That makes me sooooo proud. There are many many many military that feel this way, it would be great to help make this video go viral. I'm emailing the link to as many people that I Know and also to all news media organisations help to put the pressure on people. Please don't forget to include your police friends as well, most are great. S + F. S + F



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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Prysner is a poser, just like Kokesh. But he didn't stay with the IVAW "because they weren't radical enough".

Huh?


Every time I hear the word radical, vandalism and riots spring to my mind.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by TDawgRex
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Every time I hear the word radical, vandalism and riots spring to my mind.


Really?! I think of hot pink t-shirts, BMX bikes, and the Nintendo Power Glove.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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LOL. Yea, I guess that fits too. But I haven't heard the phrase, "That's radical Man!" lately.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 03:48 AM
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Originally posted by SirMike
Every time I see this video I laugh a little bit more. The voice in the background belongs to Mike Prysner a ground surveillance radar operator with the 10th Mountain Division. I guess being a shill for the "Party for Socialism and Liberation" gets him more tail than his former life. I wouldn’t denigrate someone’s service because he wasn’t a Snake Eater or a hard core ground pounder, but Prysner doesn’t even have a CAB so I really have a difficult time believing he saw everything he claims he did staring at a computer screen all day.



Originally posted by WhoKnows100
That makes me sooooo proud. There are many many many military that feel this way, it would be great to help make this video go viral. I'm emailing the link to as many people that I Know and also to all news media organisations help to put the pressure on people. Please don't forget to include your police friends as well, most are great. S + F. S + F


Aaaaaaaaaand that's the power of propaganda folks.


I decided to get the name before I watched a lick of that video. He's a POG. Probably never saw combat, and certainly didn't participate. Definately never cleared a house in a dangerous area. Never chased a HVT, TST, or trigger man through dangerous streets in the middle of the night.

This guy is a charlatan. Coming from someone who earned a CIB in the Infantry during combat ops in Iraq, he's just a total piece of crap.

What we are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan is not the fault of the poor who are willing to serve, it's the fault of the rest of the American people for sending us there. I will prove this idiot wrong with one sentence.

Without us there is a draft or no war, the decision is up to the people, not the military.

So you see, the current military is merely a group of people that the American people can buffer themselves with from their fickleness and poor decision making.

When will people learn that the military is an instrument of the USA, and the people are slaves to the government, and pointing fingers at a room full of people while the house burns down will only get you all killed. The military is and does what it is told by the American people, through absentee or physical vote.

The whole country deserves a spanking IMO.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by TDawgRex
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Every time I hear the word radical, vandalism and riots spring to my mind.


Really?! I think of hot pink t-shirts, BMX bikes, and the Nintendo Power Glove.


kick it up a year or 2.

or hope you drop the other one.
edit on 11-6-2011 by fooks because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 05:32 AM
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US Soldiers Tell The Truth THEY PLANTED WEAPONS & Killed innocent people!



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 05:51 AM
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interesting and it's great they get prosecuted for killing innocents on purpose.

of course when the other side does it that is not the case.

accidents will happen, i am not surprised or disgusted. i feel bad for all involved.

these guys seem like canadians tho.

eta; also very old. not much credence in this vid.

edit on 11-6-2011 by fooks because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 06:18 AM
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Very good speech. What does it have to do with being a soldier in the US Military? I don't know. If he has issues about what he's ordered to do as a soldier in the military, then all he has to do is say, "no, I'm not following that order". I assume the person in the video volunteered to enlist. What was his expectation about being a soldier? I don't know. Everyone has an opinion, and belief in what is right and what is wrong. Being a soldier means you follow orders, and if you believe them to be "unlawful', you don't have to follow those orders. At least he lives in a country where he can speak his mind and do what he percieves to be "right". The premise that the "occupation" is wrong or right based on the opinion of the inhabitants of the country being occupied isn't really his decision to make. We don't take our orders from them. If he thinks what he is doing in the "occupied" country is wrong, then all he has to do is say so, and refuse to continue. But he has to refuse. And it is his right to do so. Thats the way it works. He's not the first soldier to make these assertions about his personal feelings on warefare, and he won't be the last. But when your leadership is compromised at the highest level, and has no concept of what or how the military is to be used for, your pretty much screwed no matter what you believe on way or another.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 06:46 AM
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Can't vouch for the personal integrity of the soldier in the OP, he seems a little weaselly. I agree with his analysis of the situation though.

Soldier in the 2nd video sounds extremely credible. I'm sure drop weapons are happening all the time. I dunno how anyone can be a soldier for our modern military for any length of time, and have any kind of conscience at all.

Originally, I supported the war on terrorism, back when I still believed the lie of the official story of 9/11, and when I gave American soldiers the benefit of the doubt. Now with both of those illusions shattered, I just get sick thinking of our military. I would lay down and be shot, or be put into prison, before ever being willingly drafted into it. Recently, at a graduation ceremony I attended, X number of graduates had stated their intention to join the military. I wished I could have talked to each and every one of them and shown them the folly of their choice, or just spoken out against it openly right there, but of course that would not have been appropriate. I certainly would have that kind of talk if any of my family members decided to make that choice though.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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a post on this video has been posted before.
still good



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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The US is using our fine soldiers for nothing more than mercenaries for the Fu&&ers that are holed up at the Bilderburg meeting today. It isn't about Iraq, it isn't about Afghanistan, it has spread to Libya, Yemen. Now they are talking about Syria Robert Gates has already said that they have plenty for the military to do.. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO QUIT SIGNING UP? When are you going to start saying He** no we won't go. When are you going to see and act responsible for your own country and your own lives? Or do you like killing and destroying with blood on your hands. Is that what you are signing up to do to have free reign to murder? None of this is for the people or by the people. It is for the richand by the rich so they can enjoy drinking blood from their gold cups.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 02:11 AM
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U.S. Pays Up for Fatal Iraq Blunders
Over 10,000 claims but families must waive rights
by Rory McCarthy
The US military has paid out $1.5m (£907,000) to Iraqi civilians in response to a wave of negligence and wrongful death claims filed against American soldiers, . . .

Commanders make payments from their discretionary funds, rarely even admitting liability. Payouts average just a few hundred dollars and in some cases families have been asked to sign forms waiving their right to press for further compensation. In one area of south-western Baghdad, controlled by the 82nd Airborne Division, an officer said a total of $106,000 had been paid out to 176 claimants since July. . . .

Iraqi courts, because of an order issued by the US-led authority in Baghdad in June, are forbidden from hearing cases against American soldiers or any other foreign troops or foreign officials in Iraq. . . .

Human Rights Watch concluded that

Source : www.twf.org...


Being a US Army Infantry Vet, I found it somewhat validating to find very little on wrongful death suits in Iraq / Afghanistan, or any other country we are currently occupying. I know that wrongful deaths occurred during my tour of duty. I know that this is the most reasonable alternative to the man looking out from in. From the outside looking in, it may seem wrong or appalling, but ask yourself what you can do as a soldier?

Your chain of command will generally sell you up the river to save their own career, because most of those officers / higher ranking NCO's aren't looking at the here and now, but the retirement coming to them. The dreams of courage and honor are long since faded.

Take this literally from a soldier who was tried for 3 counts of detainee abuse. I will tell you for a fact that the CoC was nowhere behind me, when the case eventually found me guilty. Was my chain of command involved? Yes. Were they investigated? No. Did myself and three soldiers suffer for the sanctioned actions we used? Of course.

So, don't look at the average soldier with discontent when you research this, keep in mind... The soldier today is by himself, and lacks the sense of family, unit, or belonging that used to be the namesake of the US Armed Forces.



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