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Genocide, Jews, Demonic Possession and the Amalek

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posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 12:16 PM
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If you are looking to find out where real evil is coming from all you have to do is look where the most humans are killed. When looking at the three great Genocide campaigns of the 20th Century there are three striking similarities:

1. All three involved collectivist totalitarianism

2. All three involved Anti-Judaism

3. All three may have been due to demonic possession (that is the speculative part of this write-up).

The possibility of demonic possession is discussed in Christianity, Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism. In all of these text sources a certain type of spirit possession are linked to violent bloodthirst, death and decay. I therefore propose that Genocide is caused by possession through entities (entities being the more neutral word for demons).

The correlation to Jews is as follows. Judaism is one of the cradles of Religion and also quite authoritarian. Most of these genocidal leaders started out as rebellious-toward-authority. The three great genocides of the 20th Century are therefore dramatizations of the archetypal war of rebellious spirits against an authoritarian God.

Let's examine those responsible for more recent mass murder person by person.

1. Joseph Stalin

Stalin is directly responsible for the killing of more than 60 Million of his own people during the Communist purge, and indirectly responsible for the death of many more (if we include the Famines caused by Stalins socialism the body count goes up to a horrific 120 Million).

His behaviour should suffice to indicate possession by some negative energy force, but there are actually real hints for his possession from his closest surroundings. Two examples:

* Stalins own daughter (!) Svetlana Alliluyevan said:"A terrible demon had taken possession of my fathers soul". And about Stalins minister of interiour she said: "He had a diabolic link with our family. He was a frightening, wicked demon".

* His own brother wrote in his diary: "Stalin managed to make himself a god. he did not have a single human characteristic...even when he exhibited some emotions they did not seem to belong to him"

Stalin, like Hitler (who Stalin went into a non-agression Pact with), was an anti-semite who tried to hide the fact that he was. Both Hitler and Stalin got their anti-semitism from Karl Marx who envisioned a "world without Jews", whom he accused of a vast capitalist/bankers-conspiracy. Some inspiration for the anti-semitism was also gleaned from the Ochrana (Russian Secret Police) world famous hoax "The Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion".



2. Adolf Hitler

Hitlers body count is estimated to be up to 77 Million. Imagine 77 cities wiped off the map and you get an idea of the devastation caused by his mindset.

Adolf Hitler came to rise through the Nazi Party (short for National Socialist Workers Party) which in turn was influenced by the secret societies Vril and Thule who really did deal with occult ritualism and calling on various spiritual entities to assist them in their quest for world power (see book "Spear of Destiny"). Writes Hitlers aide Hermann Rausching:

The medium is possessed. Once the crisis is passed, they fall back again into mediocrity. It was in this way, beyond any doubt, that Hitler was possessed by forces outside of himself - almost demonical forces of which the individual man Hitler was only a temporary vehicle. The mixture of the banal and the supernatural created that insupportable duality of which power was conscious in his presence … It was like looking at a bizarre face whose expression seemed to reflect an unbalanced state of mind coupled with a disquieting impression of hidden powers.

In connection with the late Hitlers addiction to drugs (methamphetamine, coc aine) he is reported to have had spasms, visions of violence and having uttered gibberish while under the influence of drugs. These could be indicators of demonic influence.

Hitlers prime goal was not the expansion of the German Empire but the Elimination of Jews. This became evident when Hitler, losing ground in Russia, refused to re-assign SS-Troops away from the concentration camps and temporarily using the train tracks for the war against Russia instead of further deportation of Jews. Having done so he would have probably won the war against Russia. However, the extermination of Jews seemed more important to him.

3. Mao

Chairman Mao Zedong or Mao Tse Tung is directly responsible for the murder of 70 Million.

Maos physician for 22 years, Li Zhisui was, of all people, probably the closest to Mao. Among other things, she reports:


Mao appeared anxious of the public but was indifferent to the problems of the Chinese people. It also describes Mao's signs of illness, paranoia, as well as neglecting dental hygiene (Mao's teeth were coated with a green-colored film, and when Li touched Mao's gums, pus oozed out)
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I quoted that part because "bad teeth" and green-film-coating has been reported in demonology as one indicator of possession.

Karl Marx (himself a Jew rebelling against his authoritarian Religion) said: " What is the object of the Jew's worship in this world? Usury. What is his worldly God? Money.". The two main complaints against Jews were that they were usually wealthy and that their Religion was authoritarian. Marx being Maos ideological father, Mao too became an anti-semite even though he was Chinese. It was Mao who reportedly first declared that Israel should be "swept into the sea" (see Biography of Mao).



Historical Context

All of this appears to have something to do with the Amalek mentioned in the Torah. The Amalekites were an ancient tribe of people that were considered evil by Jews:


As the Jewish Encyclopedia put it, "David waged a sacred war of extermination against the Amalekites,


According to Jewish lore, every Epoch will bring up the "Amalek", the adversary to Jews who will want to exterminate them (just as they were exterminated back then). In my understanding, the Amalek is like a force that jumps from Host to Host. Learned Rabbis apparently know many Generations beforehand where the Amalek will appear:


A prominent 19th and early 20th century rabbi, Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld, claimed upon Kaiser Wilhelm's visit to Palestine in 1898, three decades before Hitler's rise to power, he had a tradition from his teachers that the Germans are descended from the ancient Amalekites


Here's a Rabbi knowing that the next Amalek will come from Germany 30 years before Hitlers rise.

The point I am making is: The horrific events of the world...all the way up to 9/11, which also had something to do with attacking Jews (the WTC was perceived by anti-semites as being "full of Jews")...have a deeper metaphysical correlation that is not apparent to the world at large.

There is so much more to all of this, but I´ll leave it up to you to do the research. I do not have a Jewish or Christian agenda. My agenda is to understand the beliefs of the people who are shaping our destiny. What do they actually believe? I hope this little write-up shows you there is more to World History than meets the eye.
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posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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I think people need to own up to their mistakes and not blame it on things that can't be proven.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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the Amaleks want to destroy the jews.....



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 12:34 PM
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wow..thats certainly a new and very interesting take on things.

Not saying im convinced..but you never know



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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Many other ethnic groups have been attacked throughout all of human history. The Holocaust is relatively recent (People who lived at the time are still alive now), so it's fresh in our mind. Do the Native Americans have an "Amalekite" nemesis? If so, they are much more efficient and thorough. Also, I believe the Palestinians have their own "Amalekite" nemesis. The Israelites. And they are probably hoping that the dang real Amalekites would hurry up and get er done already.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 12:43 PM
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I serioulsy doubt this.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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Fascinating...except for the 9/11 part - that seems more like an effort to exterminate Muslims or in any event that was the result. Had never heard of the green teeth thing - where did you find that?



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by luxordelphi
Fascinating...except for the 9/11 part - that seems more like an effort to exterminate Muslims or in any event that was the result. Had never heard of the green teeth thing - where did you find that?


1. 9/11 is linked to Jews. Most of the arab world has been seeing Wall Street, New York and especially WTC as "Jewish World" since many decades before 9/11. An attack on WTC is seen as an attack on Jews by more people than you might suspect. In this case it doesnt matter what you or I believe, but what the fighting sides believe.
Even Hitler saw New York as an attack-worthy goal because of all the Jews living in N.Y.

2. Throughout demonology as well as horror movies, demonic entities are viewed as having bad teeth, decaying teeth, green teeth.
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posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by louieprima
Also, I believe the Palestinians have their own "Amalekite" nemesis. The Israelites. And they are probably hoping that the dang real Amalekites would hurry up and get er done already.


According to tradition, there are new Amalekites in every epoch. Last epoch it was Nazi Germany. This epoch it is the Hamas/Hezbollah faction. Thats what some Jews secretly believe. Palestinians on the other hand, have their own ancient beliefs about the Jews. Thats why its not likely that the MidEast conflict will be resolved anytime soon.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by Viking9019
I serioulsy doubt this.


But isnt it important to know what various factions that shape our History really believe? Which beliefs motivate their actions?



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by satron
I think people need to own up to their mistakes and not blame it on things that can't be proven.


Everything except for the possession part can be proven.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by louieprima
Also, I believe the Palestinians have their own "Amalekite" nemesis. The Israelites. And they are probably hoping that the dang real Amalekites would hurry up and get er done already.


According to tradition, there are new Amalekites in every epoch. Last epoch it was Nazi Germany. This epoch it is the Hamas/Hezbollah faction. Thats what some Jews secretly believe. Palestinians on the other hand, have their own ancient beliefs about the Jews. Thats why its not likely that the MidEast conflict will be resolved anytime soon.

I'm thinking the Hamas/Hezbollah factions are more likely motivated by the fact that the Israelis forcefully took Palestinian land and treat them as subhumans. Then when they stand up for themselves, they are called terrorists. It might be a good idea to check Netanyahu's teeth coloration. He's definitely a high candidate for demonic possession considering his penchant for creating problems on a global scale. I'd say in this particular case, the Amalekites are the good guys.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by louieprima

I'm thinking the Hamas/Hezbollah factions are more likely motivated by the fact that the Israelis forcefully took Palestinian land and treat them as subhumans. Then when they stand up for themselves, they are called terrorists. It might be a good idea to check Netanyahu's teeth coloration. He's definitely a high candidate for demonic possession considering his penchant for creating problems on a global scale. I'd say in this particular case, the Amalekites are the good guys.


Your words represent that side perfectly The Amalekites see it all as just the opposite.
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posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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Awesome thread


Some say Zionists are the offspring of Amalek.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 02:11 PM
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According to Jewish lore, every Epoch will bring up the "Amalek", the adversary to Jews who will want to exterminate them (just as they were exterminated back then).
.....This epoch it is the Hamas/Hezbollah faction ..


this made me


there is no doubt "Jewish lore" would place blame on a phantom spirit race continually possessing men generation after generation persecuting them for no reason..

anything to place blame upon others....
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posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by Rockdisjoint

Some say Zionists are the offspring of Amalek.


Zionists represent the authoritarian-Jew-vibe that the anti-authoritarians fight against. It is according to the Jewish Settlers (Zionists) that they will be attacked by the Amalek from Epoch to Epoch.

In my view the modern day Amalek are the ultra-fundamentalist "Muslim Brotherhood", responsible for the Hamas, and Genocide in Sudan.

My thread Adolf Hitler and the Muslim Brotherhood shows how the Amalek-vibe jumped from Adolf Hitler to the "Muslim Brotherhood".

This is not to say that I think Jews are not at fault or are only victims. But I do think these two factions are playing out some ancient war.
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posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by louieprima
I'm thinking the Hamas/Hezbollah factions are more likely motivated by the fact that the Israelis forcefully took Palestinian land and treat them as subhumans. Then when they stand up for themselves, they are called terrorists. It might be a good idea to check Netanyahu's teeth coloration. He's definitely a high candidate for demonic possession considering his penchant for creating problems on a global scale. I'd say in this particular case, the Amalekites are the good guys.


Keep in mind that the OP speaks of hundreds of millions of their own people being killed by past tyrants, whereas Israel has killed a few thousand after being attacked. There's a difference in magnitude. There are worse things happening around the world...Sudan and Rwanda only to name two.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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The general idea in these circles of thought is that Anti-Zionism is the new Anti-Semitism.

New Anti-Semitism


New antisemitism is the concept that a new form of antisemitism has developed in the late 20th and early 21st centuries, emanating simultaneously from the far-left, radical Islam, and the far-right, and tending to manifest itself as opposition to Zionism and the State of Israel. The concept generally posits that much of what purports to be criticism of Israel by various individuals and world bodies, is, in fact, tantamount to demonization, and that, together with an alleged international resurgence of attacks on Jews and Jewish symbols, and an increased acceptance of antisemitic beliefs in public discourse, such demonization represents an evolution in the appearance of antisemitic beliefs.[citation needed] Proponents of the concept argue that anti-Zionism, anti-Americanism, anti-globalization, third worldism, and demonization of Israel, or double standards applied to its conduct, may be linked to antisemitism, or constitute disguised antisemitism.[1]


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posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by reeferman


there is no doubt "Jewish lore" would place blame on a phantom spirit race continually possessing men generation after generation persecuting them for no reason..

anything to place blame upon others....
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Considering their "lore" comes true every centurey since a thousand years, you cant blame them. Or...maybe their "lore" has become a self-fulfilling prophecy and they would be well-advised to drop that story.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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Point of the matter: The two greatest enemies of Israel are the far-right, manifest as the Hamas and the far-left manifest as the "Israel is a genocidal racist state" crowd. These are ideologically the very same forces as Hitler and Stalin.

The war never ended. I am not sure it ever will, unless all of this information and these peoples beliefs come to light.
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