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Originally posted by nahsik
reply to post by SyphonX
If you feel so against this then why don't you lobby for it to be changed instead of complaining on a forum such as this. Oh wait you won't. So nothing has changed.
And then your going to tell me that your making light of this issue, that people need to be aware of what is happening to American society. You speak but you don't take action. So nothing has changed.
We don't have to deal with the same premise here in Australia.
Originally posted by wardk28
reply to post by BrokenCircles
Outside of the info given, we can "what if" this forever. If he committed robbery, doesn't matter what he stole, they used a gun to commit the crime. Without a weapon or force, it would just be considered theft of property. Robbery has a hefty prison sentence in itself. He deserves it because he did the crime. That seems pretty cut and dry to me. You keep asking about a gun. We know the teen that was killed had a gun. The other kid knew his friend had the gun because it was used in the robbery. So I'm not understanding what you are trying to get at.
One difference in particular, would be this-> Prove it!
Originally posted by wardk28
You keep asking about a gun.
Originally posted by felonius
Yes he is guilty. He was involved in the commision of a felony involving a weapon. By association, he is everybit as guilty.
Originally posted by Cryptonomicon
That is the weakest, most tired, trollish piece of rhetoric on the internet. Strawman & flamebait much?
I don't get it, this is an internet forum, are we not supposed to discuss issues here? Not voice our opinions?
Who are you to demand by accusation that we provide to you, good noble sir, some form of proof that we have taken action outside of this forum?
Your post is insulting, out of the spirit of ATS, and internet discussion forums in general.
If you don't like people voicing their opinions, then maybe you should find another hobby.
Originally posted by Shamatt
It is nice to know that the US is a ducked up and the UK by way of crazy laws.
I also agree very strongly that this type of lawe needs to be shouted from the roof tops so that ALL teens and potential miscreants understand cokpletely what they are getting themselves into. This would perhaps deter some of them - although I am not saying this will fix anything, but perhaps protect a few stupid teens from teaming up with the realy bad ones.
Originally posted by HoldTheBeans
Kid will plea out and get 20 years, probably serve six or ten and go rob somebody else when he gets out.
Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist
Does this mean if I shoot and kill someone that I can pin the killing on the person closest to me and take no blame?