Proof We Didn't Go To The Moon?

reply to post by ngchunter


I've heard this argument many times. That's what NASA says. No evidence is enough for non believers( like it's a church or something) we did it, and that's a proof.
Bible says Jesus was there. All what we need is to pray and believe .
Here, take a piece of petrified wood, and believe it's a moon rock.

No one on this earth at this time has ever been to moon or anywhere else for that matter...and they want till we straiten our A$$'s up.....You think anyone want us evil ass people anywhere near them? Don't flatter yourself... Alex Jones web site has an Appropriate name... "Prison Planet".....that is exactly what we live on right now and will to we show we are a decent people....and don't want to kill everything we come into contact with...

Originally posted by Karbofos
reply to post by ngchunter

 

I've heard this argument many times. That's what NASA says. No evidence is enough for non believers( like it's a church or something)

Yes, and you just proved that statement true.

we did it, and that's a proof.

No unmanned mission has ever come close to the amount of samples returned by humans. Humans are very good at picking things up and carrying them. Humans are also very good at fixing things on the fly, as had to be done with Apollo 12 when it was struck by lightning on launch, scrambling ground controllers' link to the spacecraft and knocking out "the platform" as they called it. Had it not been for the humans on board who manually switched on backup systems to restore the data link with ground controllers there is no way that flight would have made it to the moon. Had it been unmanned that mission would have been a failure. Instead, it succeeded, and amateurs tracked it as well.

By the way, that petrified wood didn't come from NASA, it came from an ambassador at the state department who didn't know he was being had. NASA never gave out ANY moon samples to other countries prior to 1970. They did give samples to the Netherlands, but those are accounted for an that wood piece is not among them.

reply to post by ngchunter


I like how people believe the module that looks like a cheap tent had anything to do with keeping humans alive and safe....and how i am supposed to believe it actually took off and flew back to earth.

It is beyond laughable that these missions went off as they are portrayed, its not even funny how people actually wanted to believe it so much that they forgot just how ridiculous the whole thing was.

reply to post by ngchunter


Where are those samples? Exept for few grams brought by unmanned device and given by Russians?
Kept in the secret facility for future generation? Well I think there are no samples. And the whole future generation thing is there to give them time to actually get samples.

Originally posted by Karbofos
reply to post by ngchunter

 

Where are those samples?

The Lunar Sample Laboratory Facility for the most part, with some samples distributed as goodwill gifts to other nations or museum pieces.

Kept in the secret facility for future generation? Well I think there are no samples.

Well that's an awfully ignorant view. Three college students who were arrested after stealing and attempting to sell some of the samples would say otherwise.
www.thebatt.com...
So would the many scientists who have studied the samples.

Originally posted by GrinchNoMore
I like how people believe the module that looks like a cheap tent had anything to do with keeping humans alive and safe....and how i am supposed to believe it actually took off and flew back to earth.

Believe it or not, the lunar lander's abilities were not dictated by how "cool" it looks or by what someone who's ignorant of its design thinks of it. It's the world's first true spacecraft, a vehicle only designed to operate in the vacuum of space. It doesn't need to look slick at all, in fact frills would have been a waste of mass. If you want to know how it took off I suggest you study up on its design. Then maybe you won't be ignorant of its basics, including the fact that it wasn't designed to fly back to earth (with the exception of Apollo 13, all moon-bound LMs were disposed of at the moon). My great uncle helped design and build it. It was a marvelous machine, essentially hand made.

It is beyond laughable that these missions went off as they are portrayed, its not even funny how people actually wanted to believe it so much that they forgot just how ridiculous the whole thing was.

Argument from ignorance is a logical fallacy.

reply to post by ngchunter


Samples were stolen, and that makes them real?
It's like, oh yeah, there was bin laden, look a porn collection))))

Sorry, I can't accept this logic.

Originally posted by Karbofos
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Samples were stolen, and that makes them real?

You can't steal something that doesn't exist. If you're an actual geologist then by all means, apply to study the samples and you can study them for yourself without having to steal them. You can also get them for educational purposes:
curator.jsc.nasa.gov...

Originally posted by ngchunter

Originally posted by Karbofos
reply to post by ngchunter

 

Samples were stolen, and that makes them real?

You can't steal something that doesn't exist. If you're an actual geologist then by all means, apply to study the samples and you can study them for yourself without having to steal them. You can also get them for educational purposes:
curator.jsc.nasa.gov...

Few grams, just like I said.
How about 300 pounds NASA claimed they got?
Is there even an image of this pile? Where are the samples?

Originally posted by consigliere
While reading this article on NASA's new deep space exploration spacecraft.
Article
A pretty cool article in itself

One quote jumped right out at me,,,

"We are committed to human exploration beyond low-Earth orbit and look forward to developing the next generation of systems to take us there," NASA adminstrator Charlie Bolden said in a statement.

If I'm not mistaken this implies we have never been beyond low Earth orbit! Which to me speaks volumes regarding our "moon missions". I personally don't believe we have.

Now don't get me wrong I'm a conspiracy theorist to the heart, and maybe I'm reading too much into this,,,,or am I? What do you think?

I think it's all utter crap. But then, I do know a man who went...

reply to post by Karbofos


Explain to us why all of the samples would be in the same place?

Moon rock at Troy University.

Looks to be more than a few grams.

I read somewhere that that the moon's surface is so statically charged that it would have been impossible to bring the rocks into the LEM because the LEM was never revamped like the command module and its cabin was still a 100% Oxygen environment and it was too dangerous.

Originally posted by TamtammyMacx
I read somewhere that that the moon's surface is so statically charged that it would have been impossible to bring the rocks into the LEM because the LEM was never revamped like the command module and its cabin was still a 100% Oxygen environment and it was too dangerous.

The command module had to be revamped because it needed to operate at 1atm of pressure while on the launchpad, making the pure oxygen environment extremely dangerous. Once in space both spacecraft operated at reduced pressure, making it safer.

reply to post by Illustronic


Are those meteorites?

reply to post by Karbofos


Nobody has a camera orbiting the moon with high enough resolution to photograph anything smaller than 10 meters per pixel, that's why. Besides if you saw resolution high enough you'd just brush it off as fake anyway.

Japanese SELENE orbiter is mapping the moon with 3D data, that means with that data (at 10-meter resolution) you can create a simulation and walk or fly around the moon at any altitude, SELENE is 100 km above the moon collecting this data, and presents an image exactly at the same location/height of an Apollo 15 photograph. As you can see the terrane matches exactly, and no technology. in the early 70's existed to get that data unless it was on the moon.


Learn about SELENE
Learn about LROC
More about LROC's 20 m/pixel resolution

What's really going on here is simple denial of overwhelming evidence without taking the trouble to present any evidence of your view, a simple taunting game, some call simple trolling.

In fact, you should learn about space cameras, or simply learn about anything and quit wasting your life away on disinformation websites.

reply to post by Illustronic


Hold on...
Images from unmanned device matching images from another unmanned device? That's great! How about humans on the moon?

And what happened with rock? Got eroded by micrometeorites?

reply to post by Karbofos


See, denial is simple trolling. Present your data, until then there is no discussion. You never intended on having a discussion, that would be too much work. You see, nobody can analyze your data unless you present it. I don't fancy playing slappy face, it's a waste of time.

Originally posted by tom502

Originally posted by C3RB3RU5
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If you really don't believe in the moon landing, consider two things:

1. The mirrors we placed on the moon that reflect light back to us :O

2. People who watched the moon landing through their own telescopes

We went to the moon. Oh, and astronauts brought back some rock samples from ze moon. But I guess we got those from the space-rock-black-market, right?

The Soviets placed mirrors on the Moon with unmanned missions. The US probably has too, that is not proof man landed and walked on the Moon.

probably ? oh, I see how this works

the US probably landed on and walked on the moon. that was easy !!!