Doomsday promoters should be prosecuted for mass end of time suicides, page 9
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reply posted on 21-5-2011 @ 10:05 PM by Ironclad
Originally posted by APOCALYPSEWATCHMAN
In the first place,bible prophecy is not crap.it is real.the prophecies of the bible will come to pass wether you believe it or not.second,everybody want's to prosecute these false prophets,but what about the people who were stupid enough to believe them? no one is commenting on them.that they believed this nonsense is their own falt. lack of discernment.i am an independant minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and a bible prophecy teacher.i resent the implication that those of us who are legitimately trying to help people understand the times they are living in,should be prosecuted. we're not all false prophets.you are living in the endtime,and bad things are going to happen before the Lord returns.the prophecies of the bible do not require you to believe in them in order for them to come to pass.they will come to pass.the people who listen to these false prophets and do not read the bible for themselves have no one to blame but themselves

The only thing worse than a preacher who spews out absolute puke from the pulpit week after week,is a congregation who sits in the pews week after week and laps it up.
edit on 21-5-2011 by APOCALYPSEWATCHMAN because: misspelled a couple words


Sorry to burst your buble mate. but the Prophesies are not going to happen at all.. EVER!!

Well maybe someday the Earth will cop it sweet, in a few billion years or so, but not in the imediate future. The bible is little more than a storybook, made up by a bunch of Roman senetors, to use as a tool to control the masses. The Prophesies are just a boogyman created to keep people from doing bad things and nothing more.

How a modern, human being can believe a bunch of words printed in a book that was written 2,000 years ago is totally beyond comprehension...

I honestly thaught this was the 21st century..lol

I honestly thought that people would have moved beyond the worship of Pagan gods and religions and icons like the bible by now..
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reply posted on 21-5-2011 @ 11:22 PM by ScousePhil
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I highly doubt he knew people would kill themselves, I mean, how could he? He's not a mind reader he's an idiot. I don't think he gave it any forethought at all and even if he did it's still the person who commited suicide's choice to do so.

As far as I know he wasn't preaching to people telling them to kill themselves and even then it would take a disturbed or depressed individual, who already exhibited suicidal tendencies, to follow through with it. Like I said before these people are fragile but we cannot tip toe around them, treat them like children, and give up our freedom of speech just because they can't handle life.

Suicide is tragic but Camping is not responsible for those who cannot think for themselves.
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reply posted on 21-5-2011 @ 11:35 PM by marg6043
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An idiot he was not, he reap millions of dollars from the people that trusted him and his prophecy, greed, dishonest, a fraud, deceiver and more, but an idiot? no I don't think so.


reply posted on 21-5-2011 @ 11:42 PM by ScousePhil
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Hahaha fair point, I stand corrected. But then again rainman was pretty smart.




reply posted on 22-5-2011 @ 01:18 PM by ScousePhil


What an idiotic, cowardly b**ch. At least the kids are alive but who knows what mental damage will be done because of their psycho mums pathetic weakness.


reply posted on 25-5-2011 @ 07:30 PM by HardbeatAcolyte
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It's one thing to give a more mainstream Christian interpretation of these events, like the guy you replied to (who was perfectly valid), and another thing to use the topic as an excuse to attack mainstream religion. I don't really feel that this is the time or place to start picking bones with mainstream believers.
By all means though, it sounds like you already know everything, so good luck with that.


I honestly thought that people would have moved beyond the worship of Pagan gods and religions and icons like the bible by now..

Welcome to reality, where we may have beliefs that differ from yours
I apologize if we're not all as 'enlightened' as you
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reply posted on 27-5-2011 @ 10:58 PM by Helious
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You should be prosecuted for blind ignorance. If people are not smart enough to decide for themselvese then it becomes natural selection.

If your not smart enough to understand that freedom of speech trumps ignorance then, your more guilty of the crime that you assert in this thread.



reply posted on 28-5-2011 @ 08:54 AM by stereologist
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Freedom of speech is poorly understood. It does not allow people to say anything you want. You are not allowed to incite trouble or cause trouble. You are not allowed to do many things.

en.wikipedia.org...
According to the Freedom Forum Organization, legal systems, and society at large, recognize limits on the freedom of speech, particularly when freedom of speech conflicts with other values or rights. Limitations to freedom of speech may follow the "harm principle" or the "offense principle", for example in the case of pornography or hate speech.



reply posted on 28-5-2011 @ 08:37 PM by Helious
Originally posted by stereologist
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post by Helious



Freedom of speech is poorly understood. It does not allow people to say anything you want. You are not allowed to incite trouble or cause trouble. You are not allowed to do many things.

en.wikipedia.org...
According to the Freedom Forum Organization, legal systems, and society at large, recognize limits on the freedom of speech, particularly when freedom of speech conflicts with other values or rights. Limitations to freedom of speech may follow the "harm principle" or the "offense principle", for example in the case of pornography or hate speech.



Freedom of speech is poorly understood by communists, dictators and those that would aspire to be such. Incite trouble? Cause trouble? Who exactly is the judge of what that is?

You can not incite panic and that is fair, outside of inciting panic, you should be free to say anything you wish at any time, as long as the message is not vulgar and inciting panic. There is no other time where freedom of speech should be repressed my friend.

Yes, you are not allowed to do many things, you seem to be just fine with this, is it your contention we should all just hush up about our constitutional rights and be better citizens?

I'm pretty sure our forefathers were causing trouble and inciting panic during the founding of our country in the fight of blind tyranny. Domestic terrorists indeed! When the laws and those that enforce it have become not for the people yet against the people there is but one choice and that is of utter and total dissent. Freedom of speech is legal to the citizens of the USA, just not the rogue government.
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reply posted on 28-5-2011 @ 10:17 PM by stereologist
reply to post by Helious



Freedom of speech is poorly understood by communists, dictators and those that would aspire to be such.

That's a rather short list since the meaning of freedom of speech is poorly understood by almost everyone.

You can not incite panic and that is fair, outside of inciting panic, you should be free to say anything you wish at any time, as long as the message is not vulgar and inciting panic. There is no other time where freedom of speech should be repressed my friend.

What about deceiving people to get their money or other assets?

Yes, you are not allowed to do many things, you seem to be just fine with this, is it your contention we should all just hush up about our constitutional rights and be better citizens?

Every country has its own "constitutional" guarantees. Not everyone is covered by a constitution. For countries that do there are always limitations of what freedoms cover.

Freedom of speech is legal to the citizens of the USA

Hmm. I think you are a little unclear about the 1st amendment.

You need to read this and other places to get a better handle on freedom of speech in the US.
en.wikipedia.org...
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