If We Need to Conduct RANDOM HOUSE to HOUSE Searches We Will

In light of the recent Indiana Supreme Court decision stripping citizens' rights to resist UNLAWFUL police entry...

So Long 4th Amendment! It Was Nice While it Lasted!

Now we get this from an Indiana Sheriff...

According to Newton County Sheriff, Don Hartman Sr., random house to house searches are now possible and could be helpful following the Barnes v. STATE of INDIANA Supreme Court ruling issued on May 12th, 2011. When asked three separate times due to the astounding callousness as it relates to trampling the inherent natural rights of Americans, he emphatically indicated that he would use random house to house checks, adding he felt people will welcome random searches if it means capturing a criminal.

If We Need to Conduct RANDOM HOUSE to HOUSE Searches We Will

Wow! Does this Sheriff know anything at all about our country's founding? What our Constitution says? Bill of Rights? Magna-freaking-Carta?

Our rights in this country are just being wiped away like a milk spill with a sheet of Bounty! Every day it seems we get closer and closer to the greatest nightmare our Founding Fathers ever had. A police state!

Can this be stopped or reversed?

I'm beginning to have serious doubts.

reply to post by Hessling


There is an existing thread discussing this issue Here. and Here.

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Every dunder-head who votes a liberal/democratic party line contributes to this sort of mayhem....those are liberal democratic appointed judges making those rulings...A new socialist utopia

Where eric holder isn;t this a job for the attorney General. Him and Obama sure jumpped on the ARIZONA immigration law.. This is even mmore egrregious and outlandish. And an out right I don;t care about the constitution, We live in NAZI Germany. I guess the sherrif is going to next annouce that there gonna change there uniforms and switch to the SS uniforms.

And 60 minutes wants to wonder why thereis a sovereign citizens movement.

If I'm not mistaken, the United States has been ruled under the Patriot Act since on or before 13 September 2001. Most Americans have their heads up their chimneys and do not petition the Senate or Congress to come off the Patriot Act and back to constitutional rule. Wikipedia, en.wikipedia.org... says it was enacted 26 October 2001 by G.W. Bush and is due to expire 29 May 2011 unless extended by Congress (again). In it, there is NO habeus corpus or constitutional rights against any unlawful entry by any law enforcement agency or US military. We are not now nor have been under Federal Constitutional Law since 26 October 2001 and hopefully enough people will petition congress to change it back.

Wasn't it Ben Franklin who said: "Anyone who wants security above freedom deserves neither" ?

WOW!!! this is truly unbelievable. As a resident in Indiana this is horrifying. Im having a hard time understanding how this decision for the people of Indiana can be handled by a mere 5 people? what in the world is going on?

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Im just hearing what my local county has to say about this.. This is non-sense our community leaders are out there basically lying to the citizens saying that its not as bad as it seems, and police are not going to be able to come inside your house without a warrant... wow

What are Indiana's firearm laws like? I could see this having bearing on someone unlawfully breaking into someone's home, LEO or not.


Nice to see that the Constitution means jack squat in today's society.





Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

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Missed that! I have to learn ATS Search better.

I was looking under Social Issues where my earlier post (the one I linked above) never showed up on Fire-Hose.

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When it comes to the Patriot Act my "Patriot" radar starts going into overdrive. I couldn't agree more with your points.

BTW, you are correct! It was Ben Franklin. (And one of my personal favorite Founding Fathers quotes!)

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Good question!

Good question!

Now, if only we can figure out an answer...

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You know, Indiana is a conservative-leaning state. Who knows? Perhaps their gun laws tend to be more NRA-friendly than most states? Because the government cannot take the right to defend your home, when lawfully armed, away from someone, right?

RIGHT?????

Originally posted by Hessling
reply to post by truthseeker1984

 

You know, Indiana is a conservative-leaning state. Who knows? Perhaps their gun laws tend to be more NRA-friendly than most states? Because the government cannot take the right to defend your home, when lawfully armed, away from someone, right?

RIGHT?????

edit on 17-5-2011 by Hessling because: ETA

One would like to think so.

I find the notion of warrant-less, baseless searches to be disgusting and proving once again that Big Brother is winning this cat and mouse game. The fact that the Sheriff had the audacity to say that citizens would welcome it should he decide to go through with it just goes to show how out of touch not only he is, but how out of touch the sheeple are.

I got into an argument with a friend of mine today on this very same issue. You know what he told me? He stated (paraphrased) that: "He wouldn't mind it, because he has nothing to hide." I told him that it doesn't matter if he has anything to hide or not, that it's the principle of the matter. We are protected from THESE VERY SEARCHES through our Fourth Amendment Rights. If people want to forget the papers that this very country was founded on, then so be it, but this is one person that would rather die fighting on his feet than groveling on his knees.

Some people just won't see through the bulls*** that the government continually feeds them. "For their protection" only goes so far. What would it take for people to wake up and smell that the "roses" is really a ten foot high pile of horse crap?




Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

sure am proud to not live in indiana

you indianans better pull up stakes and get the hell out and move to where the citizens shoot back

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If they tried to do this here in Florida they'd meet the business end of my samurai sword. It wouldn't be a pretty sight either!
%$%$%#Y

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Oh God, please not the "I have nothing to hide" argument? Your friend didn't actually say that? *SIGH*

Who am I to kid...yeah me too. I work with someone who clearly stated they had no problem with airport pat-downs and body scanners.

Damn! What's happened? Seriously!

Originally posted by ldyserenity
reply to post by Hessling

 

If they tried to do this here in Florida they'd meet the business end of my samurai sword. It wouldn't be a pretty sight either!

%$%$%#Y

Originally posted by Hessling
In light of the recent Indiana Supreme Court decision stripping citizens' rights to resist UNLAWFUL police entry...

So Long 4th Amendment! It Was Nice While it Lasted!

Now we get this from an Indiana Sheriff...

According to Newton County Sheriff, Don Hartman Sr., random house to house searches are now possible and could be helpful following the Barnes v. STATE of INDIANA Supreme Court ruling issued on May 12th, 2011. When asked three separate times due to the astounding callousness as it relates to trampling the inherent natural rights of Americans, he emphatically indicated that he would use random house to house checks, adding he felt people will welcome random searches if it means capturing a criminal.

If We Need to Conduct RANDOM HOUSE to HOUSE Searches We Will

Wow! Does this Sheriff know anything at all about our country's founding? What our Constitution says? Bill of Rights? Magna-freaking-Carta?

Our rights in this country are just being wiped away like a milk spill with a sheet of Bounty! Every day it seems we get closer and closer to the greatest nightmare our Founding Fathers ever had. A police state!

Can this be stopped or reversed?

I'm beginning to have serious doubts.

Why isn't he in jail for conspiracy to commit treason? No seriously this Sheriff needs to be arrested, tried for conspiracy to commit treason and face life in jail or the death penalty for such a serious crime. Heck at the very least he should be arrested for disturbing the peace. Very, very sickening.

Then again this could be a psych-ops to make us welcome a violent military coup and police/elected government round up and imprisonment.

Wow this is ridiculous.

It seems like every day now there is a sign or two of how bad a road our country has turned onto and has got the pedal to the medal on. I do not like where the road seems to go, to dark of a place than where we should go.
This is yet another sign.

Sad times, indeed.