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reply posted on 19-5-2011 @ 12:49 PM by Illusionsaregrander
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If they can connect the dots. Most people dont seem capable of tracing cause and effect further than one or two moves.


reply posted on 19-5-2011 @ 01:21 PM by Golithion
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He's in court right now and after that he will Probably be moved to another but word has it he was under Suicide Watch at Rikers. But it seems like most high profile cases are put under that umbrella. Edit to add this link: newsandinsight.thomsonreuters.com...
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reply posted on 19-5-2011 @ 01:50 PM by coquine
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander


I know for a FACT that France was aware of us smearing Saddam and case building via public opinion in the media. They were one of the most vocal critics of that war.


...back to the subject.......
where were the handcuffs there??

French President Jacques Chirac has become the latest Western leader to speak out against an American attack on Iraq.

He condemned US threats to attack Iraq unilaterally, saying that a United Nations mandate should be sought for military action.


That is relevant to this topic how??

Originally posted by coquine
Do you know everything about France?


Irrelevant. Knowing "everything" about a nation is not the point. There is no equivalence whatsoever between "knowing everything" and "knowing one thing."


Then I shall re-phrase the question-
Did you know about this law in France before this event? Or their cultural values concerning images used in media?


Originally posted by coquine
Yes, they were aware of those events, yet even I never saw a photo of either of them in handcuffs during those events. (?)


Its still trial in the court of public opinion. Much like showing mug shots of people like Micheal Jackson, or OJ SImpson, or various other celebrities whose legal troubles hit the international media cycle.


The international community has cared a bit less about pop music stars and football players, but there again, no photos of them in handicuffs were shown here before their judgement.



the statement that someone must have their heads somewhere dark and isolating is not a "feeling." Its a statement of truth phrased in a way I found personally satisfying.


It is not a intellectually sincere argument. It is satisfying to your emotions because it is words that are cultural "button pushers" and usually push the buttons of those they target, repressing their faculties for logical and reasonable argument.

Its impossible that France could be aware of how we operate in the media. We have done it too many times, in too many instances that have hit the international news scene.


Though the french are aware that the press will always strive to have such power of the masses, they assumed (mistakenly) that the US must have some minimal laws in place to limit their ability to do so.


"The American Press" is not here defending their title and the feelings of the French. You are.


I did not start this thread, in which the topic is the feelings of the french people. I do not share their feelings either.
The french did not bring to the american public their feelings- the american press did. (just watched the evening news and a reporter in the US let us know that the americans have found out the feelings of the french and are very focused upon that). Even the french are wondering why the americans are bothing to focus on how they feel, and wondering why you care.

In any case, they did not impose their feelings upon the american media. It was their business and irrelevant.


reply posted on 21-5-2011 @ 11:34 PM by Aeons
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Actually, I don't find that he didn't protest being taken off the plane to be all that damning.

Public figures who might be targets might entirely find it unconcerning to be suddenly escorted out of any area by police.


reply posted on 22-5-2011 @ 08:57 AM by FreeSpeaker
Originally posted by Aeons
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Actually, I don't find that he didn't protest being taken off the plane to be all that damning.

Public figures who might be targets might entirely find it unconcerning to be suddenly escorted out of any area by police.


I'm pretty sure the arresting officers told him he is under arrest, not that we are here to escort you off the plane. If your arrested and you have commited no crime it is highly unlikely you would not protest or demand answers.
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