The Bible Is A Forgery, page 5

reply to post by leejohnbarnes

It is nothing short of shocking, intellectually atleast, how ignorant christians looking to justify their belief will say "christ perfected Judaism" or "christ brought a purer form of Judaism", etc, when they know nothing at all about Judaism. It would be hilarious if it werent so intellectually self defeating.

I study Judaism and i can corroborate your statement of gnosticism being completely incompatible with Judaism. They are forever opposing concepts. The former seeks to justify animalistic behavior and actions by including them within a greater unity that is entirely impersonal in scope. Good and Evil represent two different poles within the same underlying reality (according this train of thought). They also deliberately pervert the Torah by interpreting it as some gnostic allegory. Where G-d wanted Adam to lust after the forbidden fruit and exercise his own power by disobeying G-ds command. Thus, G-ds commands become understood in the negative as a command against commands. So wherever the concept of "commands" exist, whether in the Book of Genesis, Exodus (they particularly ignore numbers, leviticus and deuteronomy) these are either interpreted via this corrupt and negating logic or ignored all together.

In the end, the Hebraic tradition is antipathetic towards this pagan doctrine of moral relativism. If people think gnosticism is "new" they know nothing of ancient religions. This idea existed already in Greek Mythology and Babylonian/Egyptian Mythology. Why do you think the Egyptians worshipped the nile? It wasnt the "life giving waters" that replenished the nile delta that they worshipped, nor some imagnative "god" that they had deified. Water to the Egyptians represented what water represents to Taoists today; as a substance that fills all voids ie; adapts to whatever situation or reality it enters. Water is completely uniform. There is no way to distinguish one part of it from another. It is completely fluid and just flows with the flow of time.....Water thus was the physical representation of an ideal - or idol - in how one should live his life.

Just as the Hebrews rejected and regarded all 'limitations' (Hebrew Mitzarim) as the the servitude of Egypt (Mitzrayim), so the Greek Hellenists during the 3rd century BCE were regarded as the recent incarnation - albeit a more sphisticated type, of that same pagan drive to transcend "evil" and more importantly HUMAN RESPONSIBILITY. The G-d of the bible was thus conceived by the Platonists and later the gnostics as a "demiurge", some figment that the mind of man creates to create order in the world. This was the same corrupt, perverted belief that Shabbati Zevi, the false messiah of the 1600's, who said that the "G-d of Israel" is a lesser god, beneath a god that essentially is the gnostic abraxas.....

Judaism is forever and unequivocally at odds with gnosticism, and so christianity. They are opposites. They are symbolized as Jacob vs Esau... It is not coincidence that the Talmudic Rabbis of the 1st century CE regarded Rome as Edom - who the Torah says "Edom, he is Esau"...