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Some 80 years after lawyer Joseph Wheless wrote his classic Forgery in Christianity, it seems some - or at least one - mainstream scholars are catching up to the fact that the New Testament is not what it appears to be and what hundreds of millions have been taught around the world for the past 2,000 or so years.
Published in 1930, Wheless's work - which was a major influence on my own after I found it on a bookshelf some 20 years ago - essentially consists of quoting the authoritative Catholic Encyclopedia's admissions against interest about the New Testament books and epistles, as well as the writings of the early Church fathers. Although the Catholic Encyclopedia ("CE") does not go so far as to admit that Christianity itself is forged, its editors were fairly honest in their scholarly analyses of some of the individual texts. Obviously, in order to maintain the party line and their vocations, CE editors couldn't go so far as New Testament scholar Dr. Bart Ehrman has done in his new book Forged: Writing in the Name of God, but even he doesn't go as far as Wheless did, which was to call the entire gospel tale into question, including the very historicity of its main character, Jesus Christ.
Yet, Ehrman's hat in the ring of scholarship basically proving textual forgery is a step in the right direction. If one truly studies the literature from the Mythicist School beginning at the latest in the 18th century, one will find as much merit in it as in this "new" analysis of many New Testament texts as forged. It's just a very small step, really, when one realizes how much of the NT is bogus and how little credible, scientific evidence exists that the gospel tale actually took place when and where claimed or that its main characters were even "historical."
Originally posted by Jim Scott
While I do appreciate facts, it seems this post is another useless attack on Christianity, for whatever reason. For centuries, attacks have been made against the Christian church. ATS members spend a lot of their time and talents working up these attacks. I suppose there is some cleansing that they feel if they get it off their chest, but I have yet to see any substantial information.
Originally posted by taccj9903
Does this mean that the rapture and the beginning of the end of the world won't be happening this Saturday? Dang it, I was planning on partying with strippers and going out with a bang.
Originally posted by mayabong
Turn the other cheek
Give to Ceasar what is Ceasars
Probably some things I'd put in there if I wanted passive taxpaying subjects.
Originally posted by DrHammondStoat
reply to post by leejohnbarnes
I agree with everything you wrote except maybe that the bible is a forgery. I think it would be more accurate to say its a collection of writings that were selectively put together in order to promote one particular myth, some of them may be genuine, so it's more a kind of propaganda exercise.
I've never understood how some christians look at the modern version of the bible and believe it to be the infallible word of God. It was put together by men with political agendas and ambitions and then re-interpreted by others with similar motivations along the years. As far as I know God didn't say to leave particular writings out.
If you are a christian, why do you not read all the gospels that were left out of the canon known as the bible?
I don't think we will ever progress as human beings if we stick to the idea that following the static words in one particular book are the key to everything. We have been duped, the answers have been within us all along.
Originally posted by TerryMcGuire
reply to post by leejohnbarnes
What do you make of the book " The Mythmaker " by Hyam Maccoby? I read it ten years ago and it made sense to me generally.
edit on 17-5-2011 by TerryMcGuire because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Jax27
"this post is another useless attack on Christianity" - I hate to be blunt or offensive, but there is no such thing as a useless attack on any religion. Religion should be met with hostility and violence. Superstition might be the downfall of man unless we stop it.
Originally posted by metachoi
First let me say I am no follower of religion in any form - man made traditions are evil. Second, I am a follower of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. If you wonder what that last phrase means read the Gospel of John. My aim is to give another viewpoint, a historical one, and then at the end show from the scriptures themselves that Gnosticism was considered a danger by the apostles John and Paul.
The earliest origins of Gnosticism are still obscure and disputed, but they probably include influence from Plato, Middle Platonism and Neo-Pythagoreanism academies or schools of thought, and this seems to be true both of the more Sethian Gnostics, and of the Valentinian Gnostics.
John is telling us two important things about the Lord Jesus Christ. First, John is saying that Jesus Christ "was from the beginning." Gnostics believe in several emanations of deity. They are called "aeons," emanations of being from the ultimate unknowable Being, God Himself. Gnostics distinguish between an inferior god whom they felt was responsible for the creation, and the superior deity. They believe that there is the real God, but also several emanations of deity, lower in rank and glory. But according to John, Jesus Christ was from "the beginning."