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Originally posted by michaelmcclen
Im fed up reading the mindless dribble coming out of the London Bomb thread.
So as someone that lives here, studied our politics at degree level for 2 years and our history coupled with sociolology I will let you have an inside view of this counrty.
*Has about 300 active members
*Their QM who was their leader, was jailed for trying to smuggle in arms
*They have little or no munitions all bombs have to be home made as the IRA (the origional before splinter) decommissioned them. This was so they could get social grants for their respective housing estates, same as the UDA.
*They have no support in NI or Ireland after the Omagh bomb which killed members on both sides.
The GAA now is on the side of peace and the PSNI they havent a hope in hell gaining the catholic support again. This has been proven time and time again, after they go on a "mission" within a week or two the perpetrators are usualy caught along with bomb factories.
So you think our government is full of terrorists, well in short yes it is. Marty was an IRA sniper in Derry and Gerry sat on the IRA council.
So where the protestants, Big Ian was very close to the UDA.
But here's the thing, its all in the past. We dont want to live in the past anymore, we are fed up with bomb alerts, riots and no job prospects. We want jobs and a decent standard of living just like you.
Our politicians are delivering both so why be hung up on their past. We have greater disclosure than the UK. Hell our First minsiters wife was sleeping with a 21 year old, it hit the news and he was the one that broke it. We accepted it, felt sorry for him and moved on.
United Ireland and UK
With the good friday agreement there needs to be a 51% yes vote from both north and south. This is probably never going to happen in my life time and the reasons are;
*Catholics in NI get to many benifits including the NHS, social housing and first pick of jobs now. What can Ireland Offer, a country in Debt.
*The UK wants rid of us as we are a drain on their resources, well tough ~ . They stole Ireland many centuries ago this is just karma coming back to bite them.
*Ireland doesent want us, we cost to much as i said above, social housing, NHS and benifits. Also N.I. would have to dramaticaly change, every road sign would have to change, this is just one factor that would cost millions also the up keep of our country would cripple an already crippled country.
Not to mention 60% of Northern Ireland is protestant. Lets just say for arguement we went into a United Ireland tomorrow. There would be civil unrest that would spill into the rest of the UK and Ireland. Do you honestly think that the Irish army and the guards have the resources to keep the peace. Simple answer is NO.
Our 'we country' may be flawed but its working after 30 years of a civil war there is peace so dont rock the boat.
The integration of catholic and protestants is finally happening, things that would never have happened are now happening. My family is protestant but my brothers wife is catholic and they are having a child, my cousins (best friend) wife is catholic and they have 2 kids. My circle of friends include members of the Orange order that will break bread with hard line catholics during house partys. (I like to leave around 3am during the house partys to avoid the debate over the troubles lol.)
So can the people that do not live here stop with the idiotic comments. Stop proclaiming your Irish just because your granny many moons ago had a guinness and that the North and South should reunite because you think you have the right to lecture us on our country.
People in glass houses shouldent throw stones.
Peace and Loveedit on 16-5-2011 by michaelmcclen because: grammar
Originally posted by okamitengu
i think 3oo years of civil war is more correct, but excellent points.
Was there a conspiracy, involving MI5, CIA and the Garda, to let the bomb go off in Omagh and to deliberately kill scores of innocent people, both catholic and protestant - The motive - to blame this on the Real IRA and to force the Real IRA into accepting a ceasefire!