The Stupidity Of The Mass

It's a question of intelligence verse stupidity in the masses. I can understand from an evolutionary point that the intelligent humans would be in less numbers than the unintelligent. I don't think that it's all based on genetics though. Where in the individuals life to they sell themselves off to society? I mean, in terms of how they think, dress, act, speak, when does it all become a false persona?

Are people really individual? You couldn't say two people are exactly a like, but you could quite easily say they're pretty damn close. From an observation it's almost like people that gave up the ability to think for themselves fall into character personality types.

Where does it begin? Ignorance is everywhere in the world, but it stems from the individual. At what point in the individuals life did they take a wrong turn?

Why do you think that a large majority of American society is stupid? If you don't think they are, feel free to add why.

reply to post by TheDarkestHour


because if there were no stupid people then there would be no such thing as a intelligent person?

seriously though i think we all have our stupid moments and are all stupid when it comes to certain things.
people not clued up on politics and what is going on in the world could well be capable of thinking i am stupid for not being able to work out how to read the stars for navigation or think i am stupid because i know nothing about WW2 ( i do but these are just examples).

edit to add: my point is we are all stupid about certain things, it is as a collective we excel as a race, not individually. so these stupid people might seem stupid but they are stupid in their own unique way, as am i.

No.

You, I, we are many.

Strive to be one.

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the social brainwashing we go through since baby is so heavy and deeply thought than if nothing "special" happen in our life, we don't look further and just spend it obeying.

it is so much easier to obey than to chose. you don't have to think and you are tired enough with your slave job.

are we all able to wake up and become the individual we truly are ? i hope so; that it is purely conditions based, that therefore a change of condition can be enough to trigger an awakening in anybody, in everybody;

otherwise it means only very few people have the psychological ability to free think, like a genetic condition that cannot be changed. that'd be a nightmare, making this world truly hopeless unless the freethinkers take it over, but with flowers it might be hard these days

reply to post by CUJOCREEP


the thread title is stupidity and the o.p. asked : Why do you think that a large majority of American society is stupid? If you don't think they are, feel free to add why.

i am fully aware of the difference, but i was under the impression we were talking about stupidity.

I have a few theories on mass ignorance. I feel that here in the US most people find mainstream ideas are much more comfortable to accept. I think that people would much rather follow suit than take a chance thinking outside the box. As long as people are in a group they can hide inside it, they have safety in numbers. Individual thinkers blaze the trail for others. I know the public school system in the US isn't very good at teaching people critical thinking or deductive reasoning. Generally people won't investigate a topic unless it's required of them. Plus, our society is flooded with frivolous junk on a 24/7 basis. Instead of reading or "trying" to understand subjects that may effect them directly or indirectly, it's much easier to watch reality tv shows or play games or worry about celebrity news. And to be honest I think our society has been intentionally set up that way. It's like the masses are treated like mushrooms; they're fed a bunch of crap and kept in the dark. As long as people are buying into all of the nonsense and aren't stirring anything up... Everyone is happy. 50% of the blame can rest on society but the other half of the blame rests on the individuals shoulders. We have a chance every moment of the day to be our own leaders. If it feels like too much work then obviously that person will just jump on a band wagon that seems easy and widely accepted.

reply to post by lifeform11


your version of stupid is the lack of knowledge of something,thats ignorance,stupidity is reading a warning label on a bottle of lye then rubbing it in your eyes,stupidity is letting someone curb stomp you over mercury filled florescent
bulbs for fame on youtube,stupidity is spending 80 dollars on a pair of designer jeans that look like they belonged to a man who died by firing squad then drug from the back of a pick up truck from san diego to las vegas and back because they were told its cool, get it?

Darkesthour.

Not stupid. Wrong word. I think unconscious. And not in the popular sense of I'm awake and they are not.

Recently (20 years), cognitive science has been developing observations that all of us are only partially conscious. That most even almost all of what we consider to be our own individual consciousnesses is in reality nothing more than learned behavior replaying us to ourselves over and over and over in patterns of consciousness and habit.

This harkens back to the ideas espoused by BF Skinner and others in the school of behaviorist psychology. But only harkens. In this new school of thought, there remains a percentage within each of us that IS conscious and can when pursued guide each of us ourselves into greater consciousness.

If any of this interests you you can pursue it farther by looking into this man George Lakoff

It is they are not stupid just ignorant.Americans at one time had a very good school system.

Once the liberal socialists got in to the educational system became those at a level beyond just a school teacher,it became a indoctrination facility and not a place of education.

This has been ongoing since the 1960's the liberal socialists students at the universities that were the war protesters became school teachers and or just stayed in the university and became associate professors and then full professors and department heads.

They are still indoctrinating young people in school and college.

You talk to people that went to private schools they are smarter and less ignorant of the real world.

The ignorant ones believe anything they here on television.

The social/Marxist philosophy is keep them dumb and lie to them.

Most parents/ teachers never teach children to question anything. These days you will be surprised s to the amount of bull being taught in the schools. If you have kids in school try to keep an eye on what they learn, and teach them not to blindly believe their teachers, or even the text.

I was talking to my neighbors child the other day, he is in form 6. Form 7 is the last for high school here. Directly from his text:

Windows XF is used in offices for computing.

According to his teacher that is not a typo.
He is taking computer science and

Language translators are used to convert the written program code to machine language.

That is just the tip of the iceberg there was much more , also most of things he has learned in physics and chem is also wrong.

reply to post by TheDarkestHour

These days people live in a state of constant fear and stress, and in that state a human being can't think critically. Nothing is genetically determined, it's all epigenetic i.e. environment affects growth and behavior of an individual. To uproot stupidity and ignorance from the society, we all must love and care for each other.

Originally posted by TheDarkestHour
It's a question of intelligence verse stupidity in the masses. I can understand from an evolutionary point that the intelligent humans would be in less numbers than the unintelligent. I don't think that it's all based on genetics though. Where in the individuals life to they sell themselves off to society? I mean, in terms of how they think, dress, act, speak, when does it all become a false persona?

Are people really individual? You couldn't say two people are exactly a like, but you could quite easily say they're pretty damn close. From an observation it's almost like people that gave up the ability to think for themselves fall into character personality types.

Where does it begin? Ignorance is everywhere in the world, but it stems from the individual. At what point in the individuals life did they take a wrong turn?

Why do you think that a large majority of American society is stupid? If you don't think they are, feel free to add why.

Meh, I chalk it up to a terrible approach to education, and a culture that resents and persecutes the intelligentsia (it doesn't help matters any when they're sooo smug about their big ole brains, though; nor when they lament about how styoooopid the masses are).

In my experience, the majority of folks I encounter in my day-to-day life are fairly bright. And it's all pretty relative at any rate. I would say, then, that our culture encourages and rewards ignorance, which is not the same as stupidity. And you can't really hold it against people if they want to feel accepted within their cultural paradigm.

Feel free to try to talk them out of it, though.

People have a trust in the T.V. man, I don't know why they trust this "man", but they do. The cultures that recognise the "man" as evil are usually the more spiritually-advanced, although they still suffer from superstition.

Originally posted by TerryMcGuire
Darkesthour.

Not stupid. Wrong word. I think unconscious. And not in the popular sense of I'm awake and they are not.

Recently (20 years), cognitive science has been developing observations that all of us are only partially conscious. That most even almost all of what we consider to be our own individual consciousnesses is in reality nothing more than learned behavior replaying us to ourselves over and over and over in patterns of consciousness and habit.

This harkens back to the ideas espoused by BF Skinner and others in the school of behaviorist psychology. But only harkens. In this new school of thought, there remains a percentage within each of us that IS conscious and can when pursued guide each of us ourselves into greater consciousness.

If any of this interests you you can pursue it farther by looking into this man George Lakoff

I think unconscious is a better word to use than stupid. If people aren't really conscious, than the driving force of their actions must be emotion. Is it the social part of our brain that drives these people to enormous lengths of stupidity to be accepted?

What are the factors that control a person? Is it the society itself, or is the society being controlled by something else? Politics, hollywood, tv.. So many variables. Which has the most control over how a person acts?

Originally posted by mistermonculous

Originally posted by TheDarkestHour
It's a question of intelligence verse stupidity in the masses. I can understand from an evolutionary point that the intelligent humans would be in less numbers than the unintelligent. I don't think that it's all based on genetics though. Where in the individuals life to they sell themselves off to society? I mean, in terms of how they think, dress, act, speak, when does it all become a false persona?

Are people really individual? You couldn't say two people are exactly a like, but you could quite easily say they're pretty damn close. From an observation it's almost like people that gave up the ability to think for themselves fall into character personality types.

Where does it begin? Ignorance is everywhere in the world, but it stems from the individual. At what point in the individuals life did they take a wrong turn?

Why do you think that a large majority of American society is stupid? If you don't think they are, feel free to add why.

Meh, I chalk it up to a terrible approach to education, and a culture that resents and persecutes the intelligentsia (it doesn't help matters any when they're sooo smug about their big ole brains, though; nor when they lament about how styoooopid the masses are).

In my experience, the majority of folks I encounter in my day-to-day life are fairly bright. And it's all pretty relative at any rate. I would say, then, that our culture encourages and rewards ignorance, which is not the same as stupidity. And you can't really hold it against people if they want to feel accepted within their cultural paradigm.

Feel free to try to talk them out of it, though.

Bright as in the sense of they can follow what a book tells them to do, or bright in the way that they freely think for themselves? It's the critical thinking skills that really matter. If one can't critically think for themselves, then they just accept what answers are already there.

Doesn't this mentality kind of strike you as dangerous? The whole group think? It would allow disgusting and intolerable acts to be committed and than celebrated.. Kind of like the people celebrating outside of the White House cheering on for Osama Bin Ladens death..

Yes, people got the revenge they wanted.. After ten years.. Putting our economy into a crisis.. Losing our soldiers lives over seas for what? Killing all of those innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan.. There's no critical thinking in that. It sounds like we got the short end of the stick but everyone is celebrating like its X-Mas?

"Masses" tend to behave irrationally regardless of whether there are smart people in them.

You'd probably enjoy this:

The Undiscovered Self: The dilemma of the individual in modern society.

I met a guy yesterday that told me, and I do quote, "The Middle East is almost fixed".

Like it's a watch or something. "Honey, the War Dept. just called and we can pick up our Middle East in a hour. It's almost fixed".

Plus it's nowhere near to being "fixed" and never will be.

I just shut my mouth. No need to get into a battle of wits with a unarmed person.

Originally posted by TheLoony
I met a guy yesterday that told me, and I do quote, "The Middle East is almost fixed".

Like it's a watch or something. "Honey, the War Dept. just called and we can pick up our Middle East in a hour. It's almost fixed".

Plus it's nowhere near to being "fixed" and never will be.

I just shut my mouth. No need to get into a battle of wits with a unarmed person.

But how on Earth does an individual get like that? It's almost like someone came and zapped the intelligence out of their brain. It's as if they know just enough to survive and continue on in their daily grind. Nothing exists beyond what they see or hear, it's almost infantile.