Stop bashing the rothchilds. These quotes about them are lies. no conspiracy at all

I'll stand over here with the masses and take my chances....

If they succeed I would rather die fighting instead of being MORE enslaved to these bloodlines that have had a hold on humanity for TOO long.

Originally posted by Zaanny
I'll stand over here with the masses and take my chances....

If they succeed I would rather die fighting instead of being MORE enslaved to these bloodlines that have had a hold on humanity for TOO long.

Yep! Best to take the mob mentality and lynch the lot of them rather than actually look at the facts and realize that since WW2 and beyond, they have been slowly but surely losing their grip on power and wealth.

Your enemies are out there, your just looking in the wrong places.

Originally posted by nightbringr
reply to post by Lynda101

 

Rense.com? Youve got to be kidding me.

Rothchilds LOST DeBeers. Its a known, documented fact.

If you would like to dispute this, please show some real proof to the contrary. I dont think you can do it.

The Anti-Rothchild conspiracy is laughable and takes away from the real problems the world is facing.

No I am not kidding you, Rense makes quite a good read. Had you have read my post properly, you would have seen I didn't say the Rothschilds owned De Beers, Rense covers that and the Oppenheimers etc I said that the Rothschild's control the mining of South African Gold THROUGH De Beers and they fix the London Gold Rate. If you don't like it look up Rothschilds and De Beers on google for yourself.

Whoever controls the money, controls the country. If you control most of the countries in the world through the Central Banking system, the Fed and BOE you control most of the world. No matter what steps the government takes, its the central banks that give out money and take it back. Just look at what has happened in either the USA or UK credit was abundant suddenly its withdrawn literally making the banks the owners of all the assets they repossess. The way the Fed, BOE and Central Banks are set up most Government's have their interest rates set by them, Governments are mere puppets you might as well elect Peter Pan and Wendy you will get the Rothschilds regardless. I prefer to get who I vote for.

Originally posted by Canadianpride420
reply to post by Lynda101

 

Sudan and Venezuala are two more countries that belong to the group of countries without a rothschild controlled central bank. Venezuala recently paid off their debt and got out of the IMF. Afghanistan has a bank called the Afghanistan International Bank which is a privately owned bank set up in 2004.

I bet Venezuala is quite happy to be rid of the IMF. I expect though they will have to watch their backs. I did read that the idea of the USA, Canada and Mexico linking up and creating a new currency, the AMC was being considered. Were that to happen, I suspect they would eventually want to merge with other South American countries and Venezuela would once again become within the banker's grasp.

Originally posted by Canadianpride420
reply to post by Lynda101

 

Sudan and Venezuala are two more countries that belong to the group of countries without a rothschild controlled central bank. Venezuala recently paid off their debt and got out of the IMF. Afghanistan has a bank called the Afghanistan International Bank which is a privately owned bank set up in 2004.

You forgot Libya : af.reuters.com...

Safe to say that if the rebels have set up a Central bank of their own that the current Libyan banks wasn't under IMF control as such (Rothschild control)

Also, Iran; North Korea; Sudan; Cuba which conveniently is the AXIS OF EVIL. ??

The Rothschild defenders must be REALLY stupid not to connect the dots... these feeble countries represent the greatest threat to the worlds hegemonic superpower, the USA?? Why not China or Russia ???

In reality, yes they are. The purpose of sanctions and military build up around these countries is invariably to collapse them economically. If one or all were to succeed then the US and it's parasitic Wshington Consensus would be fully exposed for what it is, worse than communism.

Iraq was crushed due to the Oil for Food program... oil being bought and paid for in euros. As the euro isn't a petrocurrency and the associated seigniorage that goes along with dollar oil purchases, profits were piling up in French bank accounts in New York..

www.guardian.co.uk...

Interesting what happens when you don't have a nation of 300 million leeching off the rest of the world getting a free lunch.

The US military might is a mirage, move to a multi denominational petrocurrency would see the USA bankrupt in HOURS, not days, weeks. Israel, Pakistan and other countries that rely on aid, would implode as well.

reply to post by Unknown Perpetrator


As you rightly point out, the sin is to trade oil in other currency than the US$. The US$ reserve has given the USA a fantastic run for its money, but should we say the USA or should we say the Rothschilds. Someone is responsible for what has happened in Iraq and its not the soldiers its actually the top men, the financiers, who are the beneficiaries of this and its time they were seen out in the open for what they are. Every time now a Central Bank is forced into place blood is spilt and this needs to be accounted for.

reply to post by Lynda101

How on earth do you know that the Rothschilds are making an example of Strauss-Kahn? If the rumours are correct how come they didn't do it before? Also anyone who thinks Gordon Brown is fit to run the IMF needs their head testing as many a Brit will tell you.

Thank you for putting words in my mouth. I never said the Rothschilds had anything to do with DSK.

Regarding the Rothschilds history its worth a look at rense.com it gives a pretty comprehensive view especially concerning their relationship with Cecil Rhodes. The Rothschild's control all the gold mining in South Africa through De Beers and they also fix the gold rate. If you google Rothschild and De Beer you will see for yourself.

Rense is an anti-semitic site filled with garbage.

I don't understand people on ATS. De Beers was taken over by the Anglo American Mining company in the 1920s.

There are only these countries: Iran, Cuba, North Korea, Afganistan and Libya (although the rebels have a new Bank) who don't have a Central Bank owned by the Rothschilds.

The Rothschilds don't control a single central bank on this planet. The central banking network is managed by the Bank for Interational Settlements, in Basel, Switzerland.

The purple countries are BIS members. There are a hell of alot more than just Iran, Cuba, North Korea, Libya and Afghanistan outside the central banking system.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by Lynda101

 

How on earth do you know that the Rothschilds are making an example of Strauss-Kahn? If the rumours are correct how come they didn't do it before? Also anyone who thinks Gordon Brown is fit to run the IMF needs their head testing as many a Brit will tell you.

Thank you for putting words in my mouth. I never said the Rothschilds had anything to do with DSK.

Regarding the Rothschilds history its worth a look at rense.com it gives a pretty comprehensive view especially concerning their relationship with Cecil Rhodes. The Rothschild's control all the gold mining in South Africa through De Beers and they also fix the gold rate. If you google Rothschild and De Beer you will see for yourself.

Rense is an anti-semitic site filled with garbage.

I don't understand people on ATS. De Beers was taken over by the Anglo American Mining company in the 1920s.

There are only these countries: Iran, Cuba, North Korea, Afganistan and Libya (although the rebels have a new Bank) who don't have a Central Bank owned by the Rothschilds.

The Rothschilds don't control a single central bank on this planet. The central banking network is managed by the Bank for Interational Settlements, in Basel, Switzerland.

The purple countries are BIS members. There are a hell of alot more than just Iran, Cuba, North Korea, Libya and Afghanistan outside the central banking system.

Was BIS co-founded by a nazi?

True or false?

reply to post by John_Rodger_Cornman

The BIS was established in the context of the Young Plan (1930), which dealt with the issue of the reparation payments imposed on Germany by the Treaty of Versailles following the First World War. The new bank was to take over the functions previously performed by the Agent General for Reparations in Berlin: collection, administration and distribution of the annuities payable as reparations. The Bank's name is derived from this original role. The BIS was also created to act as a trustee for the Dawes and Young Loans (international loans issued to finance reparations) and to promote central bank cooperation in general.

www.bis.org...

The Young Plan committee:
Owen D. Young: American, founder of RCA, co founder of NBC, member of the Rockefeller Foundation, Time Magazine Man of the Year (1929)
J. P. Morgan, Jr.: American, son of JP Morgan.
Thomas W. Lamont: American, CFR member, head of JP Morgan Co.

The Nazis did not come into any real power until after the Young Plan was accepted by the Hague Conference.

A timeline:

1929
Feb-Jun Committee of Experts (Young Committee) meets in Paris to discuss the German reparations question
7 Jun Young Plan to deal with the German reparations question, is officially proposed; the plan includes the creation of an international bank for this purpose
31 Aug First Hague Conference to discuss Young Plan proposals ends
3 Oct-13 Nov Committee to elaborate the structure and statutes of the international bank - named Bank for International Settlements - meets in Baden-Baden, Germany (Comité d'Organisation de la Banque des Règlements Internationaux, or COBRI)
24 Oct "Black Thursday" at the New York Stock Exchange (Wall Street crash)

www.bis.org...

The National Socialists took 18% of the seats in the Reichstag in September of 1930. In July 1932 elections they would dominate the Reichstag.

By the time the Nazis even had seats in the Reichstag, the bank had been open since May 17, 1930.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by Lynda101

 

How on earth do you know that the Rothschilds are making an example of Strauss-Kahn? If the rumours are correct how come they didn't do it before? Also anyone who thinks Gordon Brown is fit to run the IMF needs their head testing as many a Brit will tell you.

Thank you for putting words in my mouth. I never said the Rothschilds had anything to do with DSK.

Regarding the Rothschilds history its worth a look at rense.com it gives a pretty comprehensive view especially concerning their relationship with Cecil Rhodes. The Rothschild's control all the gold mining in South Africa through De Beers and they also fix the gold rate. If you google Rothschild and De Beer you will see for yourself.

Rense is an anti-semitic site filled with garbage.

I don't understand people on ATS. De Beers was taken over by the Anglo American Mining company in the 1920s.

There are only these countries: Iran, Cuba, North Korea, Afganistan and Libya (although the rebels have a new Bank) who don't have a Central Bank owned by the Rothschilds.

The Rothschilds don't control a single central bank on this planet. The central banking network is managed by the Bank for Interational Settlements, in Basel, Switzerland.

The purple countries are BIS members. There are a hell of alot more than just Iran, Cuba, North Korea, Libya and Afghanistan outside the central banking system.

In an earlier reply to me you said, "Their power is immense and if you need an example look at the Head of the IMF". So I have hardly put words into your mouth. In fact its the reverse. I never said that the Rothschild's owned De Veer's I said that 'through' De Veers the Rothschilds control all the gold mining in South Africa and today fix the price of gold. No one else in the world can question or change that price fixing.

So you don't like Rense.com. its too insensitive for you. From what I read it described the Rothschild's financing of Rhodes and the British Empire's dealings in getting control of the gold and diamond mines in Africa. It didn't mince its words on Rhodes character or his actions and as a Brit I looked at a hell of a lot of criticism of my country's actions. But you won't find me, wailing to shut people up about being anti- British. I hope more Brits read it and realise when they see the statue of Cecil Rhodes they know all about the greed involved and exactly how he went about getting his own way, how the Boars suffered and who financed it.

With regard to the Central Banks we will have to beg to differ on this one, the Bank of England is owned by the Queen and the Rothschilds, the Federal Reserve is owned by a group of American and European banks owned mostly by - the.Rothchilds. You might even still find that the UK Queen has an interest due toan agreement with the founding fathers whether that has now lapsed, who knows, however she doesn't give Knighthoods to Bankers such an Alan Greenspan for nothing. An interesting thing concerning the reserve currency is that India has begun using the Rupee for its oil dealings. As she is a very large country with nuclear weaponery and a growing economy, it will be interesting to see how she fares concerning not using the accepted reserve currency the US$.

reply to post by Lynda101

In an earlier reply to me you said, "Their power is immense and if you need an example look at the Head of the IMF". So I have hardly put words into your mouth. In fact its the reverse. I never said that the Rothschild's owned De Veer's I said that 'through' De Veers the Rothschilds control all the gold mining in South Africa and today fix the price of gold. No one else in the world can question or change that price fixing.

When I said "they" I meant the Rockefellers/Morgans. I'm not disagreeing on price fixing or other measures like that. I disagree with who the controllers are.

So you don't like Rense.com. its too insensitive for you. From what I read it described the Rothschild's financing of Rhodes and the British Empire's dealings in getting control of the gold and diamond mines in Africa. It didn't mince its words on Rhodes character or his actions and as a Brit I looked at a hell of a lot of criticism of my country's actions. But you won't find me, wailing to shut people up about being anti- British. I hope more Brits read it and realise when they see the statue of Cecil Rhodes they know all about the greed involved and exactly how he went about getting his own way, how the Boars suffered and who financed it.

I used to love rense.com. Before I ever even heard of ATS, Jeff Rense teamed up with the Sci Fi channel and started a website connected to the Sci Fi show Sightings. Rense's site was then called Sightings.com. I used to visit it regularly. It was back then alot like the Fortean Times, but when Sightings was cancelled Rense went off the deep end. I tolerated some of the anti-Zionist stuff, but it got straight into neo-Nazi judeophobic stuff, like material from Stormfront. It was at this time, that the Pentagon declared Rense.com essentially off limits to us, us meaning US military personnel. It was blacklisted as a hate site.

Rothschild did work Rhodes, they were intent on creating an Imperial Federation with the US. Rhodes supposedly even created something called the Society of the Elect, which fueled the Round Table movements to garner support for his "Imperial Federation". I don't disagree that Rhodes and Rothschild had great plans for the British Empire.

With regard to the Central Banks we will have to beg to differ on this one, the Bank of England is owned by the Queen and the Rothschilds, the Federal Reserve is owned by a group of American and European banks owned mostly by - the.Rothchilds. You might even still find that the UK Queen has an interest due toan agreement with the founding fathers whether that has now lapsed, who knows, however she doesn't give Knighthoods to Bankers such an Alan Greenspan for nothing. An interesting thing concerning the reserve currency is that India has begun using the Rupee for its oil dealings. As she is a very large country with nuclear weaponery and a growing economy, it will be interesting to see how she fares concerning not using the accepted reserve currency the US$.

I havn't seen any evidence the Rothschild Group has a controlling interest in the Bank of England. I know the Rothschild Group based in the UK, only has around 8 billion Euros in assets.

The US Federal Reserve bank on the other hand is totally owned by US Banks. The stories from Gary Kah and others about the US Federal Reserve are total hoaxes, shown by his lack of understanding of the laws that govern the system and how the system works.

All Greenspan received was an honorary accolade of the Order of the British Empire. Its not exactly the most prestigious of Orders. Other members include: David Beckham, Pierce Brosnan, Bono, Michael Caine, Jackie Chan, Eric Clapton, Sean Connery, Judi Dench, Anthony Hopkins, Elton John, Ben Kingsley, Hugh Laurie, John Lennon, Annie Lennox, Paul McCartney, Ian McKellan, Kylie Minogue, Roger Moore, Liam Neeson, JK Rowling, Ringo Starr, Patrick Stewart, Rod Stewart, etc. Its the "Celebrity Order".

Note the Orders of Chivalry from higest to lowest precedence:
1. Order of the Garter
2. Order of the Thistle
3. Order of Saint Patrick
4. Order of the Bath
5. Order of Merit
6. Order of the Star of India
7. Order of Saint Michael and Saint George
8. Order of the Indian Empire
9. The Royal Victorian Order
10. The Order of the British Empire.

Now there are some Americans who have received high honors:
George H.W. Bush: Order of the Bath
Ronald Reagan: Order of the Bath
Henry H Arnold: Order of the Bath
Walter B Smith: Order of the Bath
John Biddle: Order of the Bath
Omar Bradley: Order of the Bath
James Doolittle: Order of the Bath
Dwight D Eisenhauer: Order of the Bath
Alan G Kirk: Order of the Bath
Douglas MacArthur: Order of the Bath
George Marshall: Order of the Bath
Chester W. Nimitz: Order of the Bath
George S. Patton: Order of the Bath
John J. Pershing: Order of the Bath
Colin Powell: Order of the Bath
Hugh Rodman: Order of the Bath
Norman Schwarzkopf: Order of the Bath

Originally posted by Foodman
stop watching alex jones. he provides no facts at all.

Oh really? Have you ever actually watched any videos of his broadcasts? Because they actually have a camera over his shoulder showing you the government documents he's reading from......

Originally posted by 547000
reply to post by ukWolf

 

Not really. I believe in the right to private property. I don't advocate ceasing others' rights without their consent to feed women and children. If you really gave a hoot about them, and were not simply justifying hatred of the rich, you would live a very frugal life and feed them with the rest.

Really? Think about how stupid that sounds... Stop working your minimum wage job and help the ones who can't feed themselves... Yeah that won't work. That creates more poverty. Now maybe if we were all included in that 1% that owns 40% of the wealth we could do some great things, which BTW is exactly what we are asking the Rothchilds and other elite to do. This country has benefited them well beyond and it's time they gave back. We are what makes them. They shouldn't make us, but they do, and we let them. I always give to the needy and poor. I even changed my major from International Business Management to Human Services because I care more about the job I do than the money I make. No one is asking the Roth beasts to give up their riches, we are asking them to invest in the future of mankind before it's too late.

When you present a business deal you have to have a presentation that shows purpose and gain. The Rothchilds don't care about the effect it has on anyone.

I challenge ANYONE to present evidence that shows some good they have been a part of that didn't have alternative motives.

Originally posted by Tecumte
The names Rothchild and Rockefeller are the usual ones that get trotted out alot, when likely there are many other intertwined lineages that economomically and politically speaking are 'the eye of the pyramid'.

As the world runs on 'money' those that control the money will control the world at least in the macro view.

As we look at the state of the world we can clearly see what kind of world, those that control the money have bought.

What I can't figure out though, is what kind of addiction or disease of the soul and mind keeps one who has enough for a million lifetimes locked into the desire to have even more, and uses the degradation and suffering of humanity to achieve it.

Why when one has everything material they could ever desire would they not want to leave a lasting legacy and contribution to humanity by giving back rather than perpetually taking.

Think of the good in the world that could be done and what kind of world could be created if those who had everything, stoppped using the age old methods of CREATING war, disease, famine, etc. and doing so by all manner of force and deceipt, and instead of creating more problems for ever more control and profit worked tirelessly to user in an age of peace, health, and enlightenment.

Wouldn't that legacy be of more value than simply dying with the most toys?

This would make sense, and probably even be MORE profitable then their banking system considering whatever resources were needed they would just buy it all up so the money would still come back to them. These guys are slick and cunning.

I wonder what happens when the machine (us) stops working and money is left with 0 value... What comes of the Roth & Rock beasts then? Do they not realize it's the people that make them their wealth? It's the same thing that happens with companies. Treat your people bad and they will leave and work elsewhere... but we have nowhere else to work because they control everything, so they are programed to profit in any endeavor. They just prefer the ones that cause the most harm and problems. Problems create demand, demand creates profit.

If they were sensible, rationale, honest, fair-giving human beings, as the OP claims..., they would do what is right for ALL mankind and not just for their buddies. Money is the 7 headed monster that has taken all of us. We work our whole lives to obtain money, and for what? To pay off debt...

Does this sound like the best we can be, not just as a nation, but as a species??? I wonder if ANYONE in their family is against their ways of thinking and could be good advocate to our cause as humans, as Diana was.

Originally posted by Foodman
reply to post by NadaCambia

 

scum? lol. you must be joking. if it were not for banks and those who give other credit, our world would be much much different. by different i mean poorer and way behind. only a small minority hate banks. why? because they want to blame someone else for there problems. the vast majority of people see that banks do this world good and a necessary function for the economy. pretty simple man. economics 101.

if it were not for people who took risk, where would we be in this world?

It's not the risk we're questioning... it's the purpose for taking the risk. Banks do the world good? Maybe "IF" they were ran correctly and not setup in a way to be abused. Just like the bank needs protection from the people, the people need protection from the banks. I'm sorry not everyone can know all the ends and outs of every profession. That doesn't mean we should be taken advantage because of it while others use it to their advantage, because they were taught to play the game (market). Instead we are left with bailing them out? If we owe them money (and interest) how can we bail them out when WE are in debt? Just create more digital money out of thin air?

Yeah the concept was a great idea and all but with so many loopholes it was programed to fail.

So in your rational we should trust these banks to invest in the right decisions of Americans when they can't even run themselves properly w/o being abused and comes begging for bailouts in the form of stimulus?
Yeah okay... we see where that has gotten us.

This should be an eye opener to those that DO invest. Take your money and put it to good use. Be in control and select investments that promote good health and well being instead of war and crime. We have the control, but we have to use it.

Originally posted by cloaked4u
reply to post by nightbringr

 

The amount of money that he gave to schools and such, is equivalant to me throwing a penny at hungry suffering person in africa. Now, give me a major contribution to society that cost him or his family, a SACRIFICE of billions of dollars. NOT ONE. This is why they are ALL, greeders. They do not help their fellow man, but let them fall to peices. Show me PROOF where ANY of them did this. NONE, they would just suck and suck and suck us dry and leave us in conditions like the depression. No help. THEY DO NOT CARE, the only thing they care about is the almighty dollar. Follow the money. I'm going to pull the history of rothchild's and put it here. EXCUSE me ats this will be rather long.

Not to mention the fact that they, and other companies, "donate" to fall under a tax bracket to save more of their money. I guess they didn't have enough. Besides, PR work is done by every corporation, but not for the good of the people. It's done to put on a false face of the company like they DO care, when in actually they are just trying to save money.

Originally posted by Skippy1138

Originally posted by Foodman
stop watching alex jones. he provides no facts at all.

Oh really? Have you ever actually watched any videos of his broadcasts? Because they actually have a camera over his shoulder showing you the government documents he's reading from......

Alex Jones is a joke. Info wars is a joke. He spreads fear and lies. I would not be surprised if thats where you heard all this from.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by John_Rodger_Cornman

 

The BIS was established in the context of the Young Plan (1930), which dealt with the issue of the reparation payments imposed on Germany by the Treaty of Versailles following the First World War. The new bank was to take over the functions previously performed by the Agent General for Reparations in Berlin: collection, administration and distribution of the annuities payable as reparations. The Bank's name is derived from this original role. The BIS was also created to act as a trustee for the Dawes and Young Loans (international loans issued to finance reparations) and to promote central bank cooperation in general.

www.bis.org...

The Young Plan committee:
Owen D. Young: American, founder of RCA, co founder of NBC, member of the Rockefeller Foundation, Time Magazine Man of the Year (1929)
J. P. Morgan, Jr.: American, son of JP Morgan.
Thomas W. Lamont: American, CFR member, head of JP Morgan Co.

The Nazis did not come into any real power until after the Young Plan was accepted by the Hague Conference.

A timeline:

1929
Feb-Jun Committee of Experts (Young Committee) meets in Paris to discuss the German reparations question
7 Jun Young Plan to deal with the German reparations question, is officially proposed; the plan includes the creation of an international bank for this purpose
31 Aug First Hague Conference to discuss Young Plan proposals ends
3 Oct-13 Nov Committee to elaborate the structure and statutes of the international bank - named Bank for International Settlements - meets in Baden-Baden, Germany (Comité d'Organisation de la Banque des Règlements Internationaux, or COBRI)
24 Oct "Black Thursday" at the New York Stock Exchange (Wall Street crash)

www.bis.org...

The National Socialists took 18% of the seats in the Reichstag in September of 1930. In July 1932 elections they would dominate the Reichstag.

By the time the Nazis even had seats in the Reichstag, the bank had been open since May 17, 1930.

edit on 18/5/11 by MikeboydUS because: timeline

The young committee was created by JP Morgan jr.(banker)

Answer the question.

www.bis.org...

Did the BIS have a nazi ( Reichsbank President Hjalmar Schacht)as a founding member? True or false.

reply to post by gorgi


Heard all what from? I'm not the OP, you do realize that, right?

reply to post by John_Rodger_Cornman


Hjalmar Schacht did not become a partner with the Nazi party until after the Bank for International Settlements was created.

The young committee was created by JP Morgan jr.(banker)

If that was the case it would have been the Morgan Plan and not the Young Plan.

Answer this question,

Did you read my post? True or False.