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New Executive Order to make declassifying documents much harder

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posted on Mar, 25 2003 @ 09:24 PM
New Executive order released that will delay declassification of any classified documents by 3 years, and will make it significantly easier to reclassify any documents as top secret.

This will delay or totally prevent the public release of many historical documents that we have been looking for.

posted on Mar, 25 2003 @ 09:27 PM
And on that thought...

Supreme Court refuses to hear ACLU arguements on the Patriot Act....

Hear that sucking sound? Thats our rights being sucked right away from us....

posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 02:06 AM
Nooooooooooooooooo this cant be happening. They cant make you pay for the freedom of information act, and then make all of the files worth paying for classified for ever. How are we ever supposed to see them.

When will the jfk assasination files become declassified. Also are they going to put out a fake report for the public to see.

posted on Mar, 26 2003 @ 11:35 PM
When will the jfk assasination files become declassified. Also are they going to put out a fake report for the public to see. Posted by Ilovepizza

Based on this report, I would say we will likely never see the true JFK files. If any are released, as you mention, it would likely be fake.

posted on Mar, 27 2003 @ 01:12 AM
Maybe if we'd all spend more time educating people what "Federalism" is, and how our government is SUPPOSED to work, and how EO's are bad, this wouldn't be happening.

posted on Mar, 27 2003 @ 01:26 AM
Dang, that sucks..Things seem to get grimmer as the years pass.

posted on Mar, 27 2003 @ 02:32 AM
is there any possible way to see the real jfk assaination files. Can we patition to the government? Maybe they could have the nation vote on it. We need to see the real documents.

posted on Mar, 27 2003 @ 02:50 AM
'is there any possible way to see the real jfk assaination files. Can we patition to the government? Maybe they could have the nation vote on it. We need to see the real documents. '

petition away my friend, but getting the actual documents wont happen, if you do get the docs, they'll be fake. It seems history is easily forgotten. The people in charge have obviously learned from the past. Hitler took away the people's rights pretty much over night. these guys are a bit smarter, they're doing it systematically to make it appear that it's ok to have no freedoms. i.e when Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich Marshal was asked at the War Crime Tribuanls after WWII how they managed to get the backing of an entire country he said 'Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country'

I especially like the part 'denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism. Notice how that is what is being said about the anti-war movement?? Make the people feel threatened, and they'll go along with anything. Nero did it. Torched Rome, blamed it on the Christians, and then slaughtered the Christians. We all know what happened in WWII. And it still amazes me that people cannot see what is going on. So when you're under martial law and you're being sent to the FEMA camps, dont say we didnt warn you people.

posted on Mar, 27 2003 @ 03:19 AM
Well the government cant scare me. I am 100% anti-war, not anti-ameircan only anti-war. Those two are not related at all. Saying you cant do any thing about it wont make a change. Someone on this board must be able to think of a way to get the real jfk assination reports. Please we need to do something about the us government brainwashing the americans to hate people who are anti-war.
I know some people that hate france now becuase a lot of them are anti-war. That makes me so mad that people listen to the propaganda. How can people be so prejuduce? It really angers me when people make comments like that bassed on the persons view point.

Please Please Please Please help me think of a way to get this to stop, It may not be easy but it needs to be done. Please Please

posted on Mar, 27 2003 @ 07:39 AM
Does ANYBODY on this board think that JFK was killed solely be Lee Harvey Oswald and his magic bullets?

JFK was trying to get rid of the CIA, and return the nation to a gold standard. There is a little doubt that a CIA hit team took him out, and left Oswald to take the fall. No report is needed.

posted on Mar, 27 2003 @ 06:02 PM
The Majority of Americans want this war and think it is a "Just war". ilovepizza you are ANTI AMERICAN

Not because you are against america, but because you THE MINORITY wants to see the MINORITY VIEW imposed upon the people.

If the majority didn't want war, we'd really not be doing it, because Bush knows that he's on a rocker and the reaction of the people is going to shift to the majority, and he couldn't afford to do something against the majority, unlike some presidents of the past, who could and did.

posted on Mar, 27 2003 @ 06:37 PM
I dont want to impose my views on others. I think of everyone as equal, no matter what their opinions are.

We need to get the real jfk report!!!!!! Help me find a way!!!!

posted on Mar, 27 2003 @ 06:47 PM
You have shown elsewhere that you want to find away to end the war. You have one vote, that's how you end it, even if you are the only vote to end it, vote your way. When that vote becomes the majority, policy changes.

posted on Mar, 27 2003 @ 07:01 PM
As I understand, the de-classification of U.S. Gov. Documents is 20 yrs. depending on sensitivity of the case. And as for FOX, they are a crappy propaganda machine that still has me suprised. The only people who believe FOX NEWS think soap operas are keeping it real...

From what I've seen on the multiple videos of JFK being shot, I've come to the conclusion his own SS (Secret Service) shot him. Close ups from the videos show John haveing the right most side of his face blown out, and from out of no where(I suspect from being doctored) a SS agent climbing up the back of his (JFKs') car. Odd as no one was close enough to his vehicle to get onto it just seconds befor the incident.

posted on Mar, 29 2003 @ 05:11 AM
Why would his own secret service kill him. This may be ture, but i want the acutaly documents. It has been more than 20 years. Where are the documents. Lets start a protest to get these docuemtns!!!!!!!!

posted on Mar, 29 2003 @ 07:26 AM
I've come to the conclusion his own SS (Secret Service) shot him. Posted by Advisor

Actually, there may be something to that... I have read a book where the main thought was that as a sniper was firing at Kennedy, one of his SS men in the following car pulled out a hidden AR-15 to return fire... he stumbled, accidentally discharged, hitting Kennedy in the back of the head. Hell of an accident.

I am not sure that this is what actually happened, but it is not outside the realm of possibility. It is known that the night before the assasination, most of the SS men were at Jack Rubys bar getting $h@tfaced, and likely would not have been at 100% that morning anyway. Read into this what you will.

posted on Mar, 29 2003 @ 05:41 PM
All of the theorys about who killed jfk are great and all, but we need the file that says what really happened. Please dont give another post about theorys. Post about ways to get the acutal real file. If we put our heads together we can think of a way to get the real jfk assination file, but we need to work and think together!!!!

posted on Mar, 29 2003 @ 10:42 PM
Well notice who signed it!!! here is a excert from the 2000 Texas Political Platform, the one Bush initialed as his beliefs, I will post the link to the platform, it is a easy read, just like a dictionary (subject-definition).

If you read it, you will see the hyprocracy that is leading us and where we are headed. The platform is overall a really good stance, the only problem is , they wont act upon them.

Elimination of Executive Orders The Party demands the elimination of presidential authority to issue executive orders, presidential decision directives and other administrative mandates that do not have congressional approval. Further, we demand a repeal of all previous executive orders and administrative mandates.

The proof is in this sole document, as to the true charecter of the President,, Count how many things you know of, that he has went 180 degrees against.

BE Safe, Be alert, and post all relevent articles, fore that is the only warnings we have.

posted on Mar, 31 2003 @ 12:04 AM
Pizza, what is wrong with you? Why are you begging for classified information?

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