I have been tracking the reports of these enigmas since 2003.I had not really thought about them much before then.

But that all changed when I saw one with my own eyes.

It was sometime in late 2002 or early 2003.

I worked as a security guard at a gated community on the California coast near L.A. a military base is very near by.

I am retired military have been trained to be very observant especially in the dark.

I was working the graveyard shift.

Basically driving around in a compact car and doing detects.

About every hour I would go into one of the clubhouse/pool areas and use the toilet and then stand outside the gate and have a smoke and just check out the area.

To the west of me(my back) across the road was the beach area.

To the east/southeast was beach house communities and the military base.

I am looking to the east when I catch movement out of the corner of my right eye.

I turn my head in the direction and I see the dark sky and the stars twinkling.

But some of the stars were slowly moving and I knew there was something there.

I started looking ahead of the moving star field and using my peripheral vision I could clearly see the outline of a HUGE triangle shaped black craft slowly moving to the east at a slow speed.

I was shaking at this point and had to light another smoke.

I was thinking "crap they exist".

It had moved out of my sight by this time.I kept looking and that direction and saw nothing but black sky and stars.

This took place around 3 AM when most people are sleeping and those still up are focusing on the ground area not looking up in the sky.

I spent rest of the shift driving around and trying to figure out where it had came from.

The only thing out to the west was the ocean,and islands.

Islands controlled by the Federal government.

A perfect place to hide a craft this size from prying eyes and within distance of a huge Air Force base.

I had noticed numerous small aircraft flying out to the ocean and wondered where the heck are they going late at night?

There is nothing out there except the islands and they are uninhabited.

Or are they?

I have spent extensive research on the web and I actually think I have discovered how they are constructed powered and why no one can find out where they are kept at.

I even know why they make no noise except a humming noise.

I believe they are "contract" craft operated by a military contractor but not military people.

Probably for NSA.

I will create at a later period a thread to explain how they operate, are constructed and powered and where they are hidden during the day light hours.

And BTW My screen name shows I recently joined but I was originally one of the first 200 members to join back in 2002.

Just got involved with life and forgot about the site and my log in password.

I use to be "Tim",now,I am just an American.

I starred and flagged you brother of ATS.

Thank you for not mentioning aliens..... I believe they are ours. I believe I saw the Shiloh triangle(or whatever). It was very close to Scott AFB. I was pretty far away but it was huge.

Keep an eye out.

I saw one of these bad boys in the UK in the late 90s (97ish) It was massive, and you're the only person I've ever heard of who has mentioned the humming noise. It was so intense! It sounded like a hoover almost, infact I heard it before I saw it, and wondered who on earth was hoovering at that time of night Then it just floated over from behind the houses, over me and off into the distance, before returning back from where it came. Mad stuff, you could have sat 5 jumbo jets down each side. This thing was huge.

damn. i really hope to see one of these objects soon. they sound aw inspiring. and its really neat that you have it figured out how they made it....

Awsome! I see you have done your research brother. I believe there are countless black project craft in existance to date and have been seen for quite some time now. Most of which we own, some of which we dont IMO. I like the fact the more people are paying more attention to the sky. I for one look at the sky after exiting and before entering any building. Just habit now I guess. Outside of that if I spend any amount of time outside, im looking up to see whats there. Im on the fence about humming noises though. I believe some could be craft not our and also ours. Star and Flag my friend.

PS: to whom this may concern Obama did not make America a communist country....lol sorry its off topic.