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Yes. The existing law and rationale is based on a Supreme Court case from 1898, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, where the court found Ark was a US citizen at birth, despite his Chinese parentage. From the opinion—
Originally posted by Gazrok
I believe the only thing the Constitution says is "natural born", but technically, a child of two parents (who are not US Citizens) could be born here, and that child could be President?
The exceptions are—
The fundamental principle of the common law with regard to English nationality was birth within the allegiance, also called "ligealty," "obedience," "faith," or "power" of the King. The principle embraced all persons born within the King's allegiance and subject to his protection. Such allegiance and protection were mutual -- as expressed in the maxim protectio trahit subjectionem, et subjectio protectionem -- and were not restricted to natural-born subjects and naturalized subjects, or to those who had taken an oath of allegiance, but were predicable of aliens in amity so long as they were within the kingdom. Children, born in England, of such aliens were therefore natural-born subjects. ...
All persons born in the allegiance of the King are natural-born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well as of England. ...
We find no warrant for the opinion that this great principle of the common law has ever been changed in the United States. It has always obtained here with the same vigor, and subject only to the same exceptions, since as before the Revolution.
[T]he children, born within the realm, of foreign ambassadors, or the children of alien enemies, born during and within their hostile occupation of part of the King's dominions, were not natural-born subjects because not born within the allegiance, the obedience, or the power, or, as would be said at this day, within the jurisdiction, of the King.
Dual citizenship is of no consequence to US citizenship, particularly if it was acquired by involuntary means, like by virtue of birth, as was the case with Obama. From a Supreme Court decision concerning the alleged loss of US citizenship by acquisition of a foreign citizenship, Perkins v. Elg (1939)—
The child would (by most nations) have dual citizenship.
And the mere fact that the plaintiff may have acquired Swedish citizenship by virtue of the operation of Swedish law, on the resumption of that citizenship by her parents, does not compel the conclusion that she has lost her own citizenship acquired under our law. As at birth she became a citizen of the United States, that citizenship must be deemed to continue unless she has been deprived of it through the operation of a treaty or congressional enactment or by her voluntary action in conformity with applicable legal principles.
Considering the common law principles and precedents, and US Supreme Court case law, at this moment there isn’t a conclusive answer to that question.
What about McCain? He was born in the Panama Canal area...so technically, was he even eligible to run? I never really looked into it much, but it's curious.
Originally posted by Freenrgy2
Another one bought and paid for.
How's that change workin' for ya.
Originally posted by 13Godslivinglight
in other "less civilized" countries they would go into the whitehouse and grab these folks out and burn them at the stake.
EVERYONE MUST HAVE TO SHOW PROOF THAT THEY ARE A CITIZEN..
Originally posted by truther357
Wow...You talking about 'shallow minds'...Your going to log over to Obama's FactCheck to get the truth?
Got some oceanside property up in Denver I need to unload
I guess you also use web sites run by Marxist 'felon' Soros, paid disciples , x & current members of the New Party @ MoveOn, Media Matters, St.Peters-PolitiFact, Fight The Smears, DailyKos,Huffington Post-AOL and snopes...
Wait..snopes did get it right,one time!
Snopes:Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama,was born in Kenya
See...Democrat terrorist are very confused people.edit on 19-4-2011 by truther357 because: Not enough pictures
Originally posted by Caji316
""""There is more than enough proof of his birth certificate and even pictures of it,"""""
You post a picture of his Long Form Birth Certificate and I will give you my Home...Yes, it is paid for....Valued at $212,000.00 right now....It's your's just for a picture of his long form birth certificate you say there is a picture of....
That will end this lie right here...There can't be a picture of something that does not exist.....TPTB may make him up a fake one but it will be disproven because of ink and paper content of that era....Barry is screwed and it's just a matter of time now....edit on 19-4-2011 by Caji316 because: (no reason given)
You want people to come forward and admit they committed fraud?? I don't see that happening...
Um no. As a resident of Az, I can assuredly tell you that you are wrong.
Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.
No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
Though i understand your view, there is evidence that would support a counter claim.
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First Known Use of CERTIFICATION
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Definition of CERTIFICATE
: a document containing a certified statement especially as to the truth of something; specifically : a document certifying that one has fulfilled the requirements of and may practice in a field
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Origin of CERTIFICATE
Middle English certificat, from Medieval Latin certificatum, from Late Latin, neuter of certificatus, past participle of certificare to certify
First Known Use: 15th century
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