Founders of top poker Web sites indicted

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dont get your hopes up...the USG aint gonna allow online poker, without them getting their fair share. You may deposit, but they have a massive fee. Guaranteed!

Originally posted by billxam
The sooner everyone realizes that the election in 2008 was a peaceful coup, the sooner everyone will realize what is going on. They seized the sites because they can. If they are ordered (again) to cease and desist by a judge they will not choose to comply. It doesn't matter if they use international banks or are based in another country. It's the NWO man, the NWO. They are large and in charge.

Word.

A bait and switch. Wasn't difficult because look what came before it. I mean, the smell that precedes a poo is sometimes worse than the poo itself. Not this time, and there's another one coming every 4 years. Give or take...

Government is a ravaging maggot looking for fresh meat, since everything is radioactive, thanks to THEM.

So..the U.S government is extorting money again...I thought they only did that to the common rabble?

So we need European accounts..... damn.

Originally posted by freedom12
I can say Poker Stars will not let me play as of an hour ago.
I still can play at Absolute Poker for some reason and it's one of the companies listed. Hope the don't seize my money from my accounts.

I just sat at a low level table on FTP, so as of now playing is still fine, but I would definitely be concerned if I actually had an amount of money on there.

Yep I tried to sign up for a tourney and got a message this is not allowed in my jurisdiction. Fugging government tools. Go to the home site pokerstars.com and get a message that you can be charged with jail time and 250K fine. This is what holder has time to do while illegals run wild and Obama is a kenyan citizen. They already shut down transactions from credit cards a while back now probably shut down transfers from bank accounts. How dare we spend our money how we want. Looks like the local casino will be packed at the poker room here soon once the word gets out. Whats up next online sportsbooks I'm sure. Oh well NFL and NBA are gonna be locked down anyway. Who's the head negotiator in the NFL labor fiasco? One of Obama's boys. Look him up if your interested.

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Yeah I just hit a nice payout couple days ago on pokerstars. Probably be stolen by uncle sam now. Bastages. Gotta fund those social programs somehow. Evil poker players first to get hosed.

reply to post by HoldTheBeans

I just clicked 'Withdrawal" on FTP, just to see what would happen.
I got this INSTANTLY. it didn't even try to connect.

We could not establish a secure connection to the server. Click retry or contact Customer Support at [email protected] and include this error message in you e-mail.

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I got a message from pokerstars that my account hadn't cleared whatever the hell that means. I'm betting they'll all be offline by the end of tonight. Oops hope Holder doesn't see that last sentence. No betting online.

Originally posted by BrokenCircles
I have only read whats in your OP, and not much else.
I did see the FBI warning on the official FullTilt website.
But the program itself is still working.
I haven't logged in for a month or so, but I just now logged in and still have $19.68 lol
It's still there, and there are currently 99,053 people logged in right now.

Of course, because they can afford the lawyers.

This is just one group of crooks trying to milk another group of crooks.

No different than a drug dealer getting robbed imo.

reply to post by HoldTheBeans

www.techdirt.com...

from the guilty-until-proven-innocent dept

It appears that the federal government has really fallen in love with its new found ability to simply seize whatever websites they don't like.

First of all, whether or not those sites are illegal is something of an open question........
.........Even if you accept the idea that these sites are breaking the law, is it really okay to simply seize the domains prior to an adversarial hearing? File charges, bring it to court, and have the government ask for an injunction, allowing the site operators to state the basics of their case. Seizing the domains seems like a massive government overreach (yet again).

Of course, the interesting thing to me is that this may get a lot more people interested in the federal government's new love of seizing domain names prior to any real due process. Perhaps not that many people are all that concerned when the issue was the "boring" question of copyright, but an awful lot of people play online poker, and they are unlikely to appreciate the seizures...

I like the way this guy thinks.

reply to post by bsbray11

What are you talking about, and who are you calling crooks?

Poker is a game of skill. Beating someone at a game of skill, is not stealing

recover $3 billion from the companies.

This should explain it all! As I have said in an earlier post, all about the $!

serve as a death blow to the thriving industry

Further solidifies my argument!

These defendants concocted an elaborate criminal fraud scheme, alternately tricking some U.S. banks and effectively bribing others to assure the continued flow of billions in illegal gambling profits,” Preet Bharara, the U.S. attorney in Manhattan, said in a statement.

Funny they used the word " Concocted", before I saw this particular article on Drudge, the same wording was used from page of this thread.

Interesting, how did I see this coming?

latimesblogs.latimes.com...

Gotta love them feds.....apparently freedom is frowned upon in this establishment.....and you gotta love the liberal interventionists!

Originally posted by BrokenCircles
What are you talking about, and who are you calling crooks?

Poker is a game of skill. Beating someone at a game of skill, is not stealing

Meh, I've never really gotten involved with the whole gambling scene, but I've always been under the impression that they operate under the same gray laws many times as head shops do and things of that nature. I'm not judging, either drug dealers or gamblers, but they both often come under the hand of the law.

Meanwhile, the government runs lotteries in every state. Lotteries are far more was than gambling on poker. Poker is a game of skill. Most people that buy lottery tickets shouldn't be spending their money on it vs taking care of their families. Most of the people I see buying lottery are poor.

tricked banks into processing billions of dollars

Pretty sure they didn't need to trick the banks into accepting billions of dollars into their accounts and onto their books. How about going after the banks as well as they made the money laundering and gambling websites possible? Or would that hurt the economy too much? Too big to fail, and we are all too small to stand up.

A 2006 law made it a federal crime to “knowingly accept” most forms of payment from illegal Internet gambling.

I guess the banks just played stupid for cash then?
Just like Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds... "Durr, I didn't know what was in dem 24oz syringes. How was I suppose-ta know them needles had steroids in them? I'm a baseball player, not a scientist with a doctorates damnit!"

Funny they do this on tax day. I bet the USG is going to ask for full records of deposits/withdraws/balances from the sites. One of the big things for poker players in the last ~2 years or so is having to file if you have a poker account over $10k as an international bank account. I bet the IRS is going to be auditing a whole bunch of old filings when they get that info.

Originally posted by tooo many pills

A 2006 law made it a federal crime to “knowingly accept” most forms of payment from illegal Internet gambling.

I guess the banks just played stupid for cash then?
Just like Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds... "Durr, I didn't know what was in dem 24oz syringes. How was I suppose-ta know them needles had steroids in them? I'm a baseball player, not a scientist with a doctorates damnit!

Yeah this is a lie to save face for the banks. Payment processors are routinely shut down by USG. US Attorneys have done seizures before. They know who the poker middle men processors are and they still accept transfers. Thinking their is secrecy or deception here is a lie to cover for the banks.

The USGs insider, millionaire rat

Interesting story on the man behind the payment processors. Seems like in order to save his own hide he decided to work with the USG. He seems to be their number 1 witness.

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