reply to post by debris765nju
Hey there debris765nju, thanks for your post...
Unfortunately though, It seems as though your analysis of what my true intentions are here is slightly off to say the least..
Take what you said here for example:
It is my opinion that this thread is an attempt to explain away a real event captured by a camera, either digital or on film, as a mental delusion
Now everyone is entitled to their opinion after all and I have no issues with that. But that doesn't take away the simple fact
opinion here is incorrect. This thread is a simple attempt at explaining away common mistakes people make when It comes to the paranormal - the
mistake being that something 100% normal is mistaken for something paranormal. This thread isn't an attempt at explaining away something which is real
as a mental delusion and no thread I ever make will be such a thing. Believe it or not, I continually post here because I'm here to learn.
I'll go into this in a little bit more detail shortly, but at this point I have to ask, Is there any chance you could be kind enough to quote the
piece of text in my OP or anywhere else in this thread where I happened to link seeing faces or experiencing pareidolia specifically as some sort of
Actually, you see, that's a rather pointless pursuit in all honesty because you simply won't find such a thing here as I never made such connection.
In fact, I believe this is exactly what I said at one point. This quoted from my OP: "You see Paradolia is quite a normal thing. It's the sole reason
why people can see facial or familiar looking features in every day objects, It's the reason why we can sometimes hear familiar sounds in white noise
Notice the first sentence in particular. You see, I'm not here to mock people, call them silly names or to explain away real events or anything like
that really. Quite the opposite in fact. I just want to see the truth, and I just want to see genuine paranormal evidence.. for once.
This thread has nothing to do with me wishing to explain away real events in the slightest. I'm actually a firm believer that real paranormal
phenomenon can and will be posted here on ATS. But I believe that to achieve this, people need to know what is and most importantly, what isn't
genuine paranormal phenomenon - And this is where Pareidolia comes in.
It's a normal phenomenon which every single person on earth today should see at some point whether it be seeing familiar shapes in clouds, or seeing a
face in an every day object. I'm not saying that those whom see it are crazy or deluded, I'm saying that those whom see it, and then immediately
assume It is paranormal are more than likely to be incorrect (Notice I'm not saying that they are definitely incorrect here).
And I mean this with the utmost respect also, but maybe you shouldn't believe that the person (me) who has shared a difference of opinion to you is
the one whom is wrong here, but maybe, just maybe, you are the one who is wrong for still holding onto the belief in the way you have done despite a
rational explanation such as this being presented and seemingly disproving your conclusion.
Just a thought after all but from reading some of your posts, I get the feeling you should perhaps open your mind slightly and at least entertain the
idea that you could be wrong here instead of desperately holding onto your belief despite overwhelming evidence against.
We're all here posting on ATS to learn and progress after all, not simply validate our own beliefs.
Well, that's the idea anyway..
I keep thinking, how can a camera be deluded into taking a photograph of something that isn't there.
This is actually quite a common misunderstanding people seem to make when pareidolia is involved. You see, It's not the camera which is tricked into
taking a photograph of something which is not there... It's how we perceive that picture afterwards which is why we sometimes see familiarities. Or if
you will, something which is in fact, not there.
It's simply the brain making sense out of chaos as Masqua said. Nothing to do with a camera taking images of something which can't be there
unfortunately. Pareidolia works in person just as It works in images, and I cite the first image from my opening posts of this thread as evidence for
such a thing. Common images of orbs can be used as evidence of this also - these are probably the greatest of all examples available.
So, despite what you seem to believe, there is in fact no ulterior motive involved here or anything like that really. This is just an attempt at
bringing to light a common mistake people make so that in the future, It's a mistake which is less likely to be made.
As I stated before, I want to see genuine paranormal evidence just as much as anyone else here and anyone who actually knows me fairly well on this
website, knows how much of a fascination the paranormal is to me and they know I want nothing more than to just see this elusive piece of evidence..
Should it exist of course.
Here's a nice quote I thought of in my OP: To understand what something can be, we must first decipher what It can't be. What I meant by that was to
find true evidence of the paranormal, firstly we must make sure people don't fall for common mistakes such as pareidolia, a mistake you my friend have
seemingly fallen into going from some of your posts in this thread It would seem.
I look forward to your reply and our pending debate..
edit on 20-4-2011 by Rising Against because: (no reason given)