How to turn the vacuum into a superconductor

This article would interest those seeking vacuum / aether / quantum foam energy.

"How to turn the vacuum into a superconductor"
www.newscientist.com...

That's according to Maxim Chernodub of the University of Tours in France, who believes powerful magnetic fields could pluck charged particles out of the vacuum of space and set them flowing as a current that never encounters any resistance.

This seemingly bizarre proposal is a consequence of the uncertainty principle of quantum theory, which says we can never be sure that a vacuum is truly empty. Instead, space is fizzing with "virtual" particles, which tend to disappear almost as soon as they form. In principle, however, they could stick around long enough to become real, if they could avoid adding energy to the universe's current tally - in accordance with the law of conservation of energy.

reply to post by Larryman


Sure why not.
Space is an insulating liquid fulled with charge carriers that respond loss less, thus
superconducting, to high voltage and frequency.
Exactly what Tesla discovered.
Plucking out the energy is done by the mono Hydrogen furness discovered by
William R. Lyne and noted throughout the internet.
They might have something there, keep on discovering.

reply to post by Larryman


A fairly interesting concept.

Kind of makes me think of a "super wave-guide" - though I'm sure the analogy is lacking immensely.

It would be a pretty impressive discovery if there is no saturation limit to the conductor, as well (a break-down current where the superconductor just can't handle any more power). Well - I suppose it would be bound to planck limitations - but when the smallest unit of space can hold as much energy as exists in the chemical bonds of a tank full of gasoline - the theoretical limit of a conductor we can visibly see may as well be infinite (provided that is its only restriction).

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


>space
>liquid
>wut

Originally posted by Larryman
This article would interest those seeking vacuum / aether / quantum foam energy.

"How to turn the vacuum into a superconductor"
www.newscientist.com...

That's according to Maxim Chernodub of the University of Tours in France, who believes powerful magnetic fields could pluck charged particles out of the vacuum of space and set them flowing as a current that never encounters any resistance.

This seemingly bizarre proposal is a consequence of the uncertainty principle of quantum theory, which says we can never be sure that a vacuum is truly empty. Instead, space is fizzing with "virtual" particles, which tend to disappear almost as soon as they form. In principle, however, they could stick around long enough to become real, if they could avoid adding energy to the universe's current tally - in accordance with the law of conservation of energy.

What's funny about that is that is exactly what Tom Bearden has been saying for years. His patented free energy machine called the MEG is based on this principle. He had to prove to the U.S. patent office that his machine does in fact work for them to grant him a patent.

Funny how many people claim Tom is a fraud yet he has a patented machine and is backed up by scientists like Maxim Chernodub.

reply to post by JohnPhoenix


No, no, there's no similarity at all.

This is the idea that you can use those spontaneously appearing particles as carriers for an electric current. Since they are quasi-existent, they may offer no losses due to resistance.

That is completely different from "energy from nothing."

And, no - you do not have to demonstrate that a patent works to the patent office to receive a patent. All a patent does is protect the process you use from being duplicated and sold by someone else. There are patents for "spandex-like suits that improve physical performance and stop bullets" - I kid , you, not.

Originally posted by Aim64C
reply to post by JohnPhoenix

 

No, no, there's no similarity at all.

This is the idea that you can use those spontaneously appearing particles as carriers for an electric current. Since they are quasi-existent, they may offer no losses due to resistance.

That is completely different from "energy from nothing."

And, no - you do not have to demonstrate that a patent works to the patent office to receive a patent. All a patent does is protect the process you use from being duplicated and sold by someone else. There are patents for "spandex-like suits that improve physical performance and stop bullets" - I kid , you, not.

No really I do "get it" Bearden describes how his machine does that very thing " This is the idea that you can use those spontaneously appearing particles as carriers for an electric current. Since they are quasi-existent, they may offer no losses due to resistance."

Before those particles appeared were they not in the Nothingness? The Op says, " who believes powerful magnetic fields could pluck charged particles out of the vacuum of space and set them flowing as a current "

Those particles are themselves being used for current - That's electricity. The op didn't say " the particles form and then they can be used to carry current that we then add to them". The particles and the current are one and the same.

It is really the same thing. Listen to enough lectures given by Bearden and you will see how I can say that.

Before they grant you a patent you first submit an application. Next it is examined by one or more examiners to check the science behind the idea. You have to show them if not a working model a diagram or schematic of the device so they can examine it. If they do not think it's a sound principle, they do not grant you the patent.

reply to post by JohnPhoenix

No really I do "get it"

Cute.

Bearden describes how his machine does that very thing

Sure, in the same sense that 2001 Space Odyssey describes Microsoft SAM.

Before those particles appeared were they not in the Nothingness?

No, they weren't. There is no such thing as nothing - that's the entire concept of the vacuum state. It's like sea-level. There's plenty going on below it - but for those of us above sea-level (like our universe) - pulling 'water' from sea-level requires energy.

Those particles are themselves being used for current - That's electricity. The op didn't say " the particles form and then they can be used to carry current that we then add to them". The particles and the current are one and the same.

It's using the particles in their brief moment of existence to hold and pass a charge before popping back out of existence. It's like jumping on those platforms, in Mario, that disappear/fall within a moment of you landing on them. Because the electrical charge is traveling through briefly existing particles that have a null existence, no energy can be lost in the form of resistance or heat.

Of course - one would have to cede that the nature of such a condensate would be very iffy. Are the particles existing and then passing the field on to a new cluster of rho mesons? Or are the mesons, themselves, traveling? Or a combination of both?

On the flip-side, there could be losses, and we discover a method of energy-to-matter conversion. Which would probably be better than a crazy superconductor, anyway.

It is really the same thing. Listen to enough lectures given by Bearden and you will see how I can say that.

I gave Bearden his fun in the sun back in the day. It's not the same thing. For starters - his is a "free energy" device. He arrives at some kind of over-unity conclusion.

Before they grant you a patent you first submit an application. Next it is examined by one or more examiners to check the science behind the idea. You have to show them if not a working model a diagram or schematic of the device so they can examine it. If they do not think it's a sound principle, they do not grant you the patent.

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All of those are perfectly sound, well-thought out, and guaranteed to work ideas.

I particularly like how the moon-suit magically collects concentrated energy.

Now - that's not to say that patents are not issued to good, sound ideas. However - the patent system was never intended to be a fact-checking or proof of concept agency. You patent a process for doing something so that someone can't sneak a peak at your notebook and reap the benefits of your creativity.

Originally posted by frozenspark
reply to post by TeslaandLyne

 

>space
>liquid
>wut

Space is a liquid to radio waves.
Occult knowledge of the elite.
Radio powers the UFOs.
See Tesla testimony to Counsel in a three day session where he says he operates radio
with more inductance than capacitance as we do now that requires amplification to
receive the signals. Tesla knew the radio operators were going their own way but his
way put pressure or sound waves at the speed of light into all matter to fly his airship.

Look at the preface

see:

The high priests of this occult knowledge are the elite owners of the
coercive monopolist corporate banking, industrial, mineral and related
interests, who in turn allow the initiation of certain scientists, military and

this might have more info

Air or space becomes superconductive or lossless the Tesla radio way.

Originally posted by JohnPhoenix

Originally posted by Larryman
This article would interest those seeking vacuum / aether / quantum foam energy.

"How to turn the vacuum into a superconductor"
www.newscientist.com...

That's according to Maxim Chernodub of the University of Tours in France, who believes powerful magnetic fields could pluck charged particles out of the vacuum of space and set them flowing as a current that never encounters any resistance.

This seemingly bizarre proposal is a consequence of the uncertainty principle of quantum theory, which says we can never be sure that a vacuum is truly empty. Instead, space is fizzing with "virtual" particles, which tend to disappear almost as soon as they form. In principle, however, they could stick around long enough to become real, if they could avoid adding energy to the universe's current tally - in accordance with the law of conservation of energy.

What's funny about that is that is exactly what Tom Bearden has been saying for years. His patented free energy machine called the MEG is based on this principle. He had to prove to the U.S. patent office that his machine does in fact work for them to grant him a patent.

Funny how many people claim Tom is a fraud yet he has a patented machine and is backed up by scientists like Maxim Chernodub.

Hate to break it to you, but you don't need to provide a working model to be granted a patent!

You think this guy has actually demonstrated a working or prototype wormhole generator:

appft1.uspto.gov.../netahtml/PTO/search-adv.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&p=1&S1=20060071122.PGNR.&OS=DN/ 20060071122&RS=DN/20060071122


or this one relating to anti-gravity:

news.cnet.com...

Lets submit the exact way Tesla drives his flying machine and see if the patent is granted.
It will be rejected as the drive mechanism is sound waves in the ether.
Now no sane patent office clerk will pass that device because radio is EM waves like light
and there is nothing in space like the non existent ether.
It doesn't matter that Tesla studied the ether and invented radio while most people didn't
know wire from a spark source Tesla had flat coils generating enormous ether pressures.

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


www.freepatentsonline.com... (this will open a PDF)

The present invention is concerned with conversion to conventional electrical energy of the variants of massfree energy radiation considered above, referred to for convenience as Tesla waves, massfree thermal radiation and latent massfree radiation. The first variant of such radiation was recognized, generated and at least partially disclosed by Tesla about a hundred years ago, although his work has been widely misinterpreted and also confused with his work on the transmission of radio or electromagnetic waves. The Tesla coil is a convenient generator of such radiation, and is used as such in many of the embodiments of our invention described below, but it should be clearly understood that our invention in its broadest sense is not restricted to the use of such a coil as a source of massfree radiation and any natural or artificial source may be utilized. For example, the sun is a natural source of such radiation, although interaction with the atmosphere means that it is largely unavailable at the earth's surface, limiting applications to locations outside of the earth's atmosphere.

All of Tesla's patents:

www.hbci.com...

You can patent just about anything if you word it right.