Why we will never win

After some observations i've made over the time I have spent on this forum i can sadly say that we will never win anything, TPTB have won and the New World Order is on its way of becoming reality...

Why?

Because people are to easily distracted and its not just on this website/forum. People need to realise that if we win against them we get all answers about everything we want but this wil probably take some more years to happen and when its probably too late ...
For example i have opened a thread yesterday asking for people to take initiative and make them know that we are here and we will not give up, but this lasted for, uh, roughly one hour maybe one and a half and then everybody went to the thread that had Obama and Communism in its title (wake up .... communism is long dead for god's sake ...) that proved ... nothing, did nothing just offered something to discuss. Same goes for every person that is trying to do something, if his cause doesn't die in the first 2 hours then surely some 13 year old conspiracy troll will come and ruin the thread and so ... everything is lost once again.

If you come with good hard evidence you are imediatly considered a disinformation agent or someone working for the tptb. If you come with no evidence at all and put a flashy picture that proves nothing or a vid showing nothing you are hailed as a god and people hail you.

So yeah we lost even before the fighting began and we are pathetic because we didn't fight and didn't pose any threat to them...

Even the people i see here that i thought were more open minded, that i thought know something about the new world order and will fight against them because they truly want to be free, even they are just some sheeple becuause they are too affraid to fight. If we, the ones that are awake won't fight, how the hell can we expect the true sheeple that are intoxicated with fluoride and are dumbed down watching tv and eat food that will poison them, how can we expect THEM to fight...


So again, the truth is, we lost and thats that ...

I say we haven't lost, we just haven't won any battles against them for what, 1000s of years now? Our struggle is not a new one, it's the same old struggle with different names and faces. We've had false victories, which were just restructuring under the guise of new freedoms.

You're right though, the fluoride and the aspartame and the TV are way too powerful against the truth. The more we turn up the volume, the more they cover the people's eyes and ears. These people who storm the gates at Walmart on black Friday over a few discounts, they will be the greatest threats when the SHTF. Then the cabal will come in and clean up the left overs after the chaos simmers down.

Originally posted by AlexIR

So again, the truth is, we lost and thats that ...

I dont know as tptb havent met their REAL Planetary managers yet. So dont lose hope for better days....

One victory although small is enough, for example going on black friday in front of all those people and explaining to them that they act like savages, like some animals that act acording to the enviornment and gaining their attention.

That is a victory nontheless...Although small, its still significant.

Ophiuchus 13
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reply to post by AlexIR


All that I can say and again I'm saying it is to never ever EVER LOSE YOUR HOPE!!! I see you seems to be one of the many lights who wants to put a down to the dam slavery the world is curently under. The thing is as an individual it becomes pretty hard to confront TPTB that has the real money power and so many ways to put us down. The thing is we'll need people like you when SHTF and trust me it'll be given back to you one day it's the natural law.

I see all this non-sense, even here on ATS. I did a thread about geiger counters as the crysis in Japan becomes more and more of a concern and I barely got a couple of comments, people don't care. Why will you tell me ? It's called normalcy bias. The everyday guy and girl just doesn't believe such thing as NWO can happen it can't !!!! ( in their mind ) because everything in their life had run smooth so it can't change ... yea right we'll see in the next months.

I get your point and I'm 100% with you. I'm a believer the light will pierce through the shadow a day and that it is only a matter of time. We have a long way to go but the outcome will be positive IMO. My last words: stay optimistic because hope is the energy that we will always keep us alive no matter what it concerns.


Thruthseek3r

Are you dead yet? have you lost your mind? They have not won just yet. I know it can be depressing and hard to fight at times with some much ignorance in abundance. Keep to your facts, sense of reason, dignity and justice. At the end of the day we turn back into dust anyway, don't let your spirit go while we are here.

Well, i'm doing my part with all the resources i have available ... but when i see how people take a dump on my work it just frustrates me!

When we will be able to gather enough people to do something, the elites just need to put something on tv and bam all was in vain ...

When we will notice that things are going wrong and want to change something it will be too late (like 50 years late). People will be to intoxicated and poisoned and changed genetically to do anything so sadly they still win.

I agree. People are all talk when it comes to destroying the system or changing it in any massive way. They are two comfortable to go through the hardships of change. Most will wait until some kind of shift comes for better or for worse and they will go through the hardships forced upon them instead. Funny thing is it's going to be hardship either way. To the NWO or what ever utopia man could achieve.

People are too unhealthy in body, mind and feelings. Of course the NWO designed it to affect us this way since before we were born. It's hard to break free from a prison you can safely call home.

I think people have to wake up and I don't mean just "realize" what's going on. They have to take concrete steps to discover who they are as individuals and as a human being. If the majority of mankind had a glimpse of their true nature and power then they would be unstoppable. But this kind of enlightenment is an individual process. In the end I think all we can do is try to discover the real hidden nature of man. Then the material systems will become meaningless. But this too would would take a while, destroying one's own inner systems including subconscious and unconscious beliefs is also a difficult uncomfortable journey. However the fruit is something untainted and forever free.

It all starts with our own individual power. The masses go crazy all together but they come to their senses one at a time.

reply to post by thruthseek3r


I hate to admit it but you and the OP are right.

Even here on ATS the majority are drawn to the hype, the exaggerated and the far-fetched. If the post doesn't titilalte, anger or amuse then you will see it fade away very quickly.

Check-out the post with the most stars and flags and they will read like something that you would find on TV that could give The Jersey Shores or The Simpson's a run for their ratings.

Just goes to show you that ATSers are sheeple too, even if they do hangout in the spider's den and occasionally talk to pigs.

What does victory look like? when will we know if we have won?
Who are we fighting? what are we fighting for?

reply to post by woodwardjnr


Victory looks like when our liberties will never be threatened and our health will never be weakened by chemicals and when we trully have a word above our leaders.
We are fighting the elites, i am curently working on a database that is ment to be 95% accurate.
We are fighting for humanity and not just ourselves but for everyone on this planet from the rich to the poor, from the healthy to the dying.

We will know we won when all the above become real not just dreams.

you are going against enemies with power equivalent to god. if they want you to die you will die, if they want you to go to prison for possession of child pornography, they can make it so. the truth changes nothing for you or for them. you people cannot be victorious.

reply to post by DOADOA


By seeing this it seems like you are against the people. By saying ''you people'' cannot be victorious it sounds like you are with the elite and agreeing the fact that people will loose it and with no regret. If this is it then good for you you may have the money and the power, but you will never get our souls When the time will be to everybody being judge on what he did on this low world the one's who did things against the masses for pure personal benefit will be the one loosing the war. You can take everything from us except from 2 things : our hope and our soul.

If it's not like that you meant to speak with your post then don't listen to the previous words but in the case this is it, fear the afterlife my friend and I truly mean it.

They would need to kill me because whatever doesn't kill me makes me stronger.


And truthseeker, i was refering to the simple ats sheeple that are just talk and no action that just complain complain and then complain some more that don't change anything in their lives to truly make it better for them.


And no i am not a disinfo agent that wants to spread bad news ...

reply to post by yeahright


This is not a competition, this is a fight and the prize is us and our future and the future of our children.

And the 95% accuracy, you know its kind of hard to get accurate data and actually 95% is quite good in my opinion...

reply to post by yeahright


This topic is not about the database so please, and as a moderator i think you know better than changing the subject. Thanks

And 95% accuracy is the end goal, plus its in a language i developed with a friend of mine (ok he did most of the work). When we make it public i expect a lot of feedback to change it and who knows maybe we can get it up to 99%.

reply to post by yeahright


The database is just an example of what people can do. And why do you have to be one of the people i taked about in the first post? Why do you have to turn this topic into something completely different? ..