Originally posted by Quickfix
Yup, I knew this would happen...
But I thought it would of mixed with something more deadly likes AIDS or HIV.
You would probably be looking for the other odd one that China seems to be covering up and denying. Reports about this one have been going on for 2
years, including reports of it outside of China in Hong Kong, Taiwan and other parts of Southeast Asia.
Apparently 2 years ago, some people posted about some virus, or something that was causing the loss of an immune system in a matter of months. Some
were medical staff who said that they believed they had contracted it through touching their patients. But the bulk maintained that they caught it
immediately (within 24 hours to one week) after having contact with a prostitute even if wearing a condom. Chinese government began to immediately
label it HIV/AIDS fear and called it a hoax.
Yet 2 years later, reports still circulating all around different areas of China. Same thing. Medical staff who believed they caught it from patients
they were examining, the bulk believe they caught it from contact with a prostitute even if they wore a condom. Now the reports are circulating
outside of China in other countries in Southeast Asia as well.
While the bulk of the reports seem to be coming from a media site called the Epoch Times (which may not be a reliable source)-- other reports are
coming from mainstream reputable Chinese media sources and other SE Asia media sources. Also letters were translated and posted online from medical
staff. Here's an example:
Letter to the Chinese Ministry of Health, written by Yang Ruiming
An infectious disease expert named Yang Ruiming ( 杨瑞明) in Guangdong Province believes this pathogen is certainly real, and according tho him, it
is not a virus at all, but rather a potent new strain of Staphylococcus bacterium. Here is his letter to the Chinese Ministry of Health:
I am an epidemiology professional, 54 years old. On December 18 last year, I had contact with several "Fear of AIDS" patients, who I examined. I
found they all have very particular symptoms of sore throat and white tongue. The patients said that when they first acquired this disease, their
initial symptoms were: fever, allergic red spots, muscle pain, muscle twitching, weakness, headache, abdominal distention, diarrhea. This initial
period lasted for some weeks, and occasionally more than a month. After this period, some patient developed long-term fatigue.
The diagnosis these patients received in the hospital was "Fear of AIDS Disease" or "paranoia", or "abnormal psychology". This is because their
laboratory tests for HIV came back negative. In fact, some patients have re-checked their negative HIV status ten times. Medical experts can not
explain their symptoms, because these experts have no way to identify the pathogen involved. So the patients go back and forth to the doctors. The
doctors and experts have overlooked a very important test result: that the number of CD4 cells in these patients is generally lower than normal:
these patients have a CD4 count usually between 300 to 700, although some patients are in the normal CD4 range. Normal CD4 values are between 800
and 1200. This essentially is the situation with these patients.
One week after my contact with these patients, I became ill. These patient said that this is due to the "destructive virus". I found antiviral drugs
ineffective; antibiotics were just useful for a few days. So I doubt that this is a virus; this disease is caused by bacteria. The most frightening
thing is that its transmission is very strong. I have heard of patients whose disease spread very easy, just though close contact with family and
friends. I suspected this might be the case, but initially I could not believe it. However, during the Spring Festival, I spent two days back home -
and 15 days later my whole family was infected! All of them infected! It made me panic. This is a real horror! I am ready to risk everything, and I
decided I must identify the cause.
I have performed many epidemiological investigations. The patients told me that they were originally infected by sex workers. So I went to the
brothel, and found that the sex workers their were all infected by this disease! All them are suffering from this sore throat - some serious, some not
so serious, and some in between. A sore throat which can not be cured! I immediately performed some tongue mucus smears with Gram stain, and found
they were positive for Staphylococcus! Although I can not afford to further biochemical identification, I have determined that it is a
super-antibiotic resistant Staphylococcus.
I consulted the medical literature for characteristic bacterial species with resistance to antibiotics. There are three. Firstly Staphylococcus
aureus, which can cause septic symptoms. Secondly Staphylococcus epidermidis, which grows on the skin of moist mucous membranes, including the
esophagus, resulting in a false membrane: that is, a pseudomembrane (white tongue) which is not septic. Later we will analysis the method of its
attack on the human body. Thirdly Staphylococcus saprophyticus; however this bacteria is not compatible with the existing symptoms and causes of this
disease, so we need look no further at this one.
[snipped section posted on link]
My CD4 cells are now 386, as measured by Zhongshan Medical University, Fifth Affiliated Hospital, Zhuhai City.
from Post #64, p. 2 of articles & letters translated from Chinese to English on New Chinese Disease that's not HIV/AIDS but has HIV/AIDS
The bulk of the descriptions are the same. It seems to spread by saliva, sweat, urine, sex or any transmission/exchange of any bodily fluid. That's
why some people reportedly catch it from sharing eating utensils or hugging if they are sweaty.
They first get sick within 24 hrs to a few days--vomiting. Then within a matter of months, their (T-cell) CD4 cells drop below the normal range. They
go to a doctor-- doctor gives them an HIV test. They test negative. It's not HIV. Some of them spend months and months going to doctor after doctor--
each doctor giving them HIV tests. Each test coming back negative. And yet, their CD-4 cells keep dropping and dropping to the point that it would be
considered AIDS. AIDS would be a CD-4 count below 600.
The medical professional who wrote the letter to the Minister of Health-- within months, his CD-4 count dropped to 386. He believed he caught it
examining patients who caught it from brothels. And he infected his family.
If you go to page 3 of the translated thread, it starts talking about cases in Taiwan, Hong Kong, other areas of Southeast Asia and outbreaks in 6
provinces in China. Most are Chinese articles translated into English and reposted.
p. 3 of Tracking New Chinese Disease that
Causes Loss of Immune System that's NOT HIV/AIDS
I was kind of wondering about this one...the Summer Camp in Vancouver Island where a bunch of children were getting sick. Vancouver does have a
brothel problem...so perhaps it's reached there from the 6 provinces in China, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Southeast Asia. And since this thing spreads by
sweat, saliva, urine, and any bodily fluid-- the kids might be transmitting through sweat at summer camp.
Children falling ill at Vancouver Island summer camp
By Darrell Bellaart, NANAIMO DAILY NEWS July 29, 2011 2:04 PM
Health officials are looking into a stomach illness making children sick at a popular Vancouver Island summer camp.
Children started falling ill at Camp Qwanoes in Crofton July 9, the second week the camp was open for summer.
Testing has already ruled out known water- and food-borne pathogens. The Vancouver Island Health Authority is continuing its testing.
Affected children are being isolated for 48 hours to reduce chances the contagion will be spread.
On average more than 20 children a week are falling ill with the bug, which causes vomiting and flu-like symptoms....
Children falling ill at Vancouver Island summer camp
from undetermined cause
Could be lots of things. But at the Vancouver summer camp food and water born pathogens have already been ruled out and tested. Waiting to see what
more testing brings results of.