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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by pianopraze
So, it's so top secret that they decided to make big, long, white lines that cover the sky?
These guy are slick!
There are some purely natural conditions under which minds may become more or less receptive to ideas, and MindWar should take full advantage of such phenomena as atmospheric electromagnetic activity19, air ionization20, and extremely low frequency waves21.
19...Atmospheric EM activity is regularly altered by such phenomena as sunspot eruptions and gravitational stresses which distort the Earth’s magnetic field. Under varying external EM conditions, humans are more or less disposed to the consideration of new ideas.
20...Ionization of the air: An abundance of negative condensation nuclei (“air ions”) in ingested air enhances alertness and exhilaration, while an excess of positive ions enhances drowsiness and depression. Calculation of the ionic balance of a target audience’s atmospheric environment will be correspondingly useful. Again this is a naturally-occurring condition - caused by such varying agents as solar ultraviolet light, lightning, and rapidly-moving water - rather than one which most be artificially created.
21...Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) waves: ELF waves up to 100 Hz are once more naturally occurring, but they can also be produced artificially (such as for the Navy’s Project Sanguine for submarine communication). ELF-waves are not normally noticed by the unaided senses, yet their resonant effect upon the human body has been connected to both physiological disorders and emotional distortion. Infrasound vibration (up to 20 Hz) can subliminally influence brain activity to align itself to delta, theta, alpha, or beta wave patterns, inclining an audience toward everything from alertness to passivity. Infrasound could be used tactically, as ELF-waves endure for great distances; and it could be used in conjunction with media broadcasts as well.
Originally posted by Stewie
Great approach to a chemtrail thread.
I think it is the latest war technology being tested in the atmosphere, that is, using and controlling weather to accomplish economic ends for an elite few.
Geoengineering complete control.
Certainly they can poison whomever they wish, but until they feel they understand all of the risks involved, they must continue testing.
We are Guinea pigs.
The stakes are huge. That is why we have disinfo agents here on ATS. They are consistent, persistent, and very focused on maintaining the illusion that NOTHING is going on. If you think about it, they cannot admit that ANYTHING is going on, because that would open the door as to WHAT is going on. So, they consistently maintain that it is all in the many thousands of people's heads that see the # being sprayed.
Check out this link.
members.beforeitsnews.com...
Chemtrails are just another piece in the puzzle. Until you have all of the pieces, or at least most of the pieces, you really can't understand chemtrails. It all comes back to the fiat dollar...paper that can buy anything in the world, and whom prints it.
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by pianopraze
I see no mention whatsoever about HAARP.
It wasn't even built when this paper was written.
Turns out this is a typical chemtrail thread, full of misinterpreted, straw clutching crap.
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by pianopraze
Cherry pick?
YOU said HAARP can do mind control and YOU posted this paper as proof, yet it has absolutely nothing to do with HAARP, hell it has NOTHING to do with chemtrails!
1949 U.S. Army begins 20 years of simulated germ warfare attacks against American cities, conducting at least 239 open air tests.
1950 Sept. 20-26. One of the biggest experiments involved the use of Serratia marcescens and bacillus globigi being sprayed over 117 square miles of the San Francisco area, causing pneumonia-like infections in many of the residents. The family of one elderly man who died in the test sued the government, but lost. To this day, syraceus is a leading cause of death among the elderly in the San Francisco area.
1953 U.S. military releases clouds of zinc cadmium sulfide gas over Winnipeg, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Fort Wayne, the Monocacy River Valley in Maryland, and Leesburg, Virginia. Their intent is to determine how efficiently they could disperse chemical agents.
1955 Another case was the joint Army-CIA BW test in 1955, still classified, in which an undisclosed bacteria was released in the Tampa Bay region of Florida, causing a dramatic increase in whooping cough infections, including twelve deaths.
1956 Other experiments included tests on Minneapolis that were disguised as "smoke screen tests" because residents were told a harmless smoke was being tested so that cities might be 'hidden' from radar guided missiles.
1968 - 69 The Hong Kong flu, which was influenza A type H3N2, killed over 30,000 people in the U.S. alone. That was a fortuitous learning event for some because it taught them that the flu could still conceivably be used to wipe out a population. But at the same time, it pointed out the need to precondition the populace so that those who might normally be resistant could be rendered susceptible. Hence the development of the vaccine program and the aerial spraying procedures to condition the population. The purpose of the chemicals in the chemtrail's is to help the viral envelope fuse with lung cells, permitting easier penetration and infection.
1969 At a House Appropriations hearing, the Defense Department's Biological Warfare (BW) division requested funds to develop through gene-splicing a new disease that would both resist and break down a victim's immune system. "Within the next 5 to 10 years it would probably be possible to make a new infective micro-organism which could differ in certain important respects from any known disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious diseases." The funds were approved. AIDS appeared within the requested time frame, and has the exact characteristics specified.
1977 Senate hearings on Health and Scientific Research confirm that 239 populated areas had been contaminated with biological agents between 1949 and 1969. Some of the areas included San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Key West, Panama City, Minneapolis, and St. Louis.
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by Chadwickus
I don't really see how it is straw clutching but you're entitled to your opinion. But even straw clutching is welcome here. This is all just about speculation of what could and might be possible. Even the wildest theories if brought into the light and looked at may have some validity. We will never know unless we discuss it openly.
Discoveries in science and technology happen most frequently when researchers are free to study whatever they want, according to what interests them. Sometimes results follow from the most unusual lines of research ... lines which would never be permitted in a totalitarian society. This is one chief reason why the West was able to so greatly outdistance the Soviet Union technologically and scientifically. (A good example might be Albert Einstein's work on matter and energy (E=mc2), which was highly theoretical and esoteric ... and which would never have been permitted in a totalitarian country. Yet colleagues of Einstein took his abstract ideas and converted them into hard technology...
Originally posted by coyotepoet
reply to post by coyotepoet
The prevalence of asthma has increased significantly since the 1970s.
In 2006, asthma prevalence was 20.1% higher in African Americans than in whites.
We may be living longer but we have a harder time breathing.
Granted there are other factors (genetics, allergies, city pollution, etc.) and it doesn't confirm causation but, going along with the pharmaceutical/medical bottom line (as one would expect with something airborne like chemtrails) just looking at Asthma: Since 1980 asthma death rates overall have increased more than 50% among all genders, age groups and ethnic groups. The death rate for children under 19 years old has increased by nearly 80% percent since 1980. [15]
Originally posted by pianopraze
Originally posted by Aloysius the GaulThen they found it was making them quite famous among some circles - big fish, small pond syndrome. So they published and wrote whatever possibilites crossed they could imagine.
It's a nice theory, except it's contrary to my experience.
I thought geoengineering was a hoax.