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Dayton, OH Lowers Police Testing Standards Because Not Enough Blacks Passed...

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posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 10:45 AM
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Just so you know, the oral board ( i applied years ago and made it to the oral board portion of the exam ) is mainly scenario based questions, to establish your thought process and to allow the board a chance into your psyche. They wanna figure out how you go about problem solving. They do ask personal questions, but only allows for the board to get a " feel " for your mental state. It is quite fair and balanced across the board.




posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Whereweheaded

Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman

Originally posted by HaveAnotherOne
If blacks cant pass the test every other race seems to manage, then blacks dont deserve to be revenue agents cops.


Right Mr.Fascist . Go enslave them in your friendly neighborhood police state. Who cares they are virtually powerless lets abuse our position while we can!

Praise Mao!




The poster is a fascist because he doesn't embrace the idea of lower educated minorities becoming employees of the state? Where's your logic in that comment? Oh...there isn't any...sorry~


People that are qualified for a position should get the position. My problem is people are just seeing race and not the obvious baiting.

Dayton isn't concerned about "being fair" to minorities. Why? Because no city is really.They is just throwing out the same red meat for the far right extremists that have ethnophobia. The evil dark skinned people are stealing your water routine. Work pretty well on people that use their emotions to make decisions.

The elite love people that make critical decisions on emotion. They are easily manipulated.

They knew you were going to be upset and planned this act accordingly.
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posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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Why dont they just ask the white guys how they cheated?



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by larrydavid
Why dont they just ask the white guys how they cheated?



Why not ask the black guys why the standards had to be lowered for them to get hired?



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 11:01 AM
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Thanks that helps.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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You can cry all you want, but if their answers arent sufficient, then they rightly fail it.

The implication of racism is laughable.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 11:11 AM
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Black applicant protests lowering police entrance exam scores
Community leaders say Justice Department’s demand is ‘a slap in the face to black people.’


There are roughly 650 Dayton police and firefighters and less than 40 are black in a city with 62,000 black residents. (1% are black)

“It doesn’t surprise me the test results aren’t different and it shouldn’t surprise anyone,” said Randy Beane, police union president. “Not enough African-Americans are taking the exam and we need to get in the schools and talk to kids about being in law enforcement. What we are doing here is the definition of insanity.”


www.daytondailynews.com...

As of the census[1] of 2000, there were 848,153 people, 338,979 households, and 226,182 families residing within the MSA. The racial makeup of the MSA was 82.11% White, 14.44% African American

en.wikipedia.org...

1% of the Police and firefighters are black, while 14% of the dayton population is.

There is a disconnect, but it appears to be in applications, not scores.

The DOJ should fund a campaign to encourage more minorities to apply if it has issue, not lower scores.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 11:14 AM
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Maybe the lack of applicants is because most of the percentage of blacks there in dayton are already behind bars? I dunno?



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by HaveAnotherOne
reply to post by maybereal11
 


You can cry all you want, but if their answers arent sufficient, then they rightly fail it.

The implication of racism is laughable.


Your lack of intelligent contribution is useless. Racism exists. It is not relevant in this circumstance.

Those who chime in eagerly to drive this to a white vs. black thing while ignoring the fact that blacks in the community also disagree with lowering scores and that the NAACP also disagrees with lowering scores are not being honest in the discussion.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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The demand came from DOJ, which IS run by a proven racist. This shows black favoritism coming from the highest levels of government.

Your lack of common sense is offensive.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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The situation in the OP is by no means new, unfortunately, look at this old link:

www.policeone.com...

This is just sad. Can we do away with this nonsense, please?



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by HaveAnotherOne

The Dayton Police Department is lowering its testing standards for recruits.

It's a move required by the U.S. Department of Justice after it says not enough African-Americans passed the exam.

Dayton is in desperate need of officers to replace dozens of retirees. The hiring process was postponed for months because the D.O.J. rejected the original scores provided by the Dayton Civil Service Board, which administers the test.

Under the previous requirements, candidates had to get a 66% on part one of the exam and a 72% on part two.



Source

This is absolutely ridiculous, and just shows the lunacy that comes out of the DOJ in the name of political correctness.

Not a single rational argument could ever be made in support of this idiocy.
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The fact that they say they are lowering the testing standards because of any one race offends me really. Any idiot what ever race will now be able to pass with the poor scores. Its really just sad that these people carry around fire arms and usually develop god complexes.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 12:02 PM
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That's the sole basis of argument that I and the OP are trying to establish. The very thought that there would be those who wish to vouch for such an act is baffling? To lower that standard of testing requirements, then have those on ATS defend these actions by using " racism " as there sole basis of argument is laughable at best. And people wonder why are country went down the shizat pipe? Its that type of mindset the liberal interventionists seem to have~
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posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by mwc273
Just another example of the current state of stupidity of the American system. I used to work construction and was amazed at the good qualified candidates that were told sorry, no work for you because of quotas. We have to maintain 15% minority worker status. They can't speak english or read the prints but we are required to hire them instead of you. Not to mention the materials that could have been purchased directly from the manufacturer at wholesale, but were instead run through a minority owned business who took a 15% markup for nothing more than forwarding an order... No wonder our country is going to #...


Look into the ARRA (American Reinvestment and Recovery Act), DBE's (Disadvantaged Business Entity), and Minority Owned Businesses. No wonder our infrastructure is complete crap and getting worse by the day
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posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by HaveAnotherOne
reply to post by maybereal11
 


The demand came from DOJ, which IS run by a proven racist. This shows black favoritism coming from the highest levels of government.

Your lack of common sense is offensive.


Same scenario DOJ vs minority test scores...June of 2001
www.adversity.net...

Same Scenario DOJ vs. minority test Scores 2006
www.virginiacops.org...

I could do this all day.

Eric Holder took the position in 2009.

As I indicated you interject racism where it is not relevant to the discussion.

Unless you believe GWB was Racist toward white people along with his DOJ appointees as well?



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 03:17 PM
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Nope, I dont think GWB hated whites as well. The racism lies in the fact the feds keep throwing good money and bad ideas at a losing problem to the detriment of everyone else.

Holder certainly is a racist though. His history, comments, and actions prove that much.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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Dayton isn't concerned about "being fair" to minorities.


Yeah they are, they loose federal funding if they don't hire enough blacks. They have their quota of Hispanics and Asians, they just need a few blacks to make ends meet. Only, the blacks couldn't seem to pass the test that everyone else could.

Sounds like a race issue to me. Blacks cannot pass the test, everyone else could, so the city had to lower the scores in order to accept some blacks that otherwise failed but are needed to fill the quota.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by Whereweheaded
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Maybe the lack of applicants is because most of the percentage of blacks there in dayton are already behind bars? I dunno?


That could be part of the reason.

Pr perhaps very few blacks are qualified to be police officers in Dayton, OH



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by HaveAnotherOne

Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by maybereal11
 


Maybe the lack of applicants is because most of the percentage of blacks there in dayton are already behind bars? I dunno?


That could be part of the reason.

Pr perhaps very few blacks are qualified to be police officers in Dayton, OH


Both of these comments are racist and not supported by any evidence.



posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 04:31 PM
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Would the number of blacks in prison soothe your need for evidence?

How about violent crime stats which show blacks commit exponentially more violent crimes per capita than any other race.

Would that do it for ya?




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