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Originally posted by Danbones
"give us a child till he is seven and he is ours for life"- Jesuit maxim
Originally posted by BeenieWeenie
Honestly, without sarcasm and with love, I assure the doubtful that the truth is out there if one keeps searching. As one monk told me, the 12 disciples didn't all just drop everything and follow Christ..... some took many years to believe, and they were actually there. I don't think one will come to believe through debate, but rather through a personal search with sincerity in one's heart. It might even take a lifetime, but it's ok. God knows our true intentions.
Originally posted by Stop-loss!
Hello everyone. I will keep this thread short and simple since im sure there is more at stake for those who believe some if not all the stories that the bible, koran etc. teach. Do you believe that any of the events that took place in these religions actually existed? If you were given proof no matter how undebunkable it was, would you still believe it?
I would like to hear some replies and please keep it civil. Can you back up any of the stories from your religion if someone believes it is false?
One example I will give.
Noahs ark. Did it really happen?edit on 24-2-2011 by Stop-loss! because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by redoubt
There seems little doubt that there was a global flood... of one degree or the next. It also looks fairly clear that there was more than a single grouping that was 'chosen' to survive it.
Originally posted by pplrnuts
Originally posted by ACTS 2:38
Yes to all the stories in the Bible and none are false.
And especially yes to Noah's ark.
II Peter 3:
 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
They still believed it when this was written and there are several hundred flood stories that account 8 people
...quoting a book to defend its material to be truth without question...
Open some REAL books throughout history and discover that your book is simply a rehash of earlier stories.
...or keep going in the vicious (asinine) circle of defending a fictional book using its own nonsense to support it.
The story of "Noah" is simply a COPY of the Epic of Gilgamesh.
And I thought folks of this faith only believed in the original and genuine characters and stories, and were against impostors and copies!!!
Geez.edit on 24-2-2011 by pplrnuts because: (no reason given)
Citing the similarities between the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Hebrew Bible's Flood story, some scholars have argued that the Epic of Gilgamesh is proof that the stories found in the Hebrew Bible are true because the Babylonians must have copied the Hebrew Bible's account of the Flood story.
Originally posted by Xerxes1434
I seriously doubt a group of Jewish scholars would sit down and write up an entire made up history about themselves and cast themselves in the light of being small, nomadic, and oppressed. Most cultures when they make up stories they make great boasts but not the ancient Hebrews. They came from humble beginnings by Abraham being called out of Ur of the Chaldees and were nomadic until they established a kingdom which rose and fell. They tell about their fall from God and redemption back to him.