While trolls, disinfo agents, or just plain skeptics can be really annoying and distracting when you are trying to get a point across and I have asked
chemtrail debunkers to move to a different thread, I think that an option like that would be a bad idea. They serve a valuable purpose in both
presenting another point of view and in keeping believers intellectually honest or at least open to questioning. True it can devolve into name calling
and intellectual dishonesty of its own sort, but to block someone from posting opposing opinions is a dangerous and slippery slope regardless of their
motivations for doing so.
What would be the " POINT " then to even Post on this Site ? If you Cannot Take Criticism on your Thoughts or Opinions maybe a Career in Politics is
in your Future . Here we Debate with each other in a Healthy way which Promotes Informative Discourse for ALL .
If folks are so worried that someone will disagree with what they post, then maybe ATS should create a "No Reply" posting forum. In this forum you
could post to your hearts content and no one can disagree with you. This forum should be totally separate from the main boards and completely
private. In fact, it should be sooo very private that only the poster can read what is written.
Oh, I guess you could just open an MS Word doc, write down your thoughts then delete it...same thing.
You need the right ingredients or no one wants your damn chicken to begin with.
Originally posted by balon0
Threads such as the ones about Nibiru, chem trails, 2012 etc. are often attacked by disagreers. Their replies contribute nothing what so ever to the
thread. They can be one liners that attack the OP with insults or jokes. Or huge long passages quoted from somewhere else. These are all useless
spam that take up space on the thread. Popular threads can go up to 20 pages and HALF of them are just spam from disagreers.
I hate threads on Nibiru, "aliens", and "U.F.O.'s", but I contribute to them occasionally.
As well, I made my own thread disputing their existence, in every way.
Thank you for making this thread so I can promote my ideas and disagree with you fully.
Originally posted by balon0
If there was a option that tells disagreers to stay away, hence no more bitterness and bickering with each other in the thread.
This is the onus of EVERY ATS member.
To come to a consensus, denying ignorance, and share ideas.
My biggest complaint about ATS is no one does a damn thing with this information.
Other than to complain, whine, and bitch about Government, and never physically take them on.
Without weapons, without violence, without stupidity.
Originally posted by balon0
Imagine talking with a friend about unicorns. Then some guy runs up between you two and starts flapping their arms and jumping up and down screaming
about how unicorns do no exist. Pretty annoying isn't it?
The onus is upon you, and anyone else, as the original poster.
To share your thoughts, ideas, and or evidence.
Even if you sound like a friggin lunatic, even if others disagree with you, and if everyone agrees with you.
Trolls are are welcome to each and every one of my threads.
Just as much as those who agree with me.
Their bump, whether meant to de-rail my thread, or disagree, or just insert a difference of opinion, means my threads go to the top of the heap,
again, and again, and again, and again.
Are you getting the picture now?
Each and every person who has a disagreement with you, just as much as those who have agreed, have now "bumped" this thread, whereas if we were
blocked, your thread, would have died, like it honestly and no disrespect meant here, should have done.
Honestly, who the Hell cares if someone disagrees with you, they're contributing to your thread?
I want people who agree, disagree, want to follow me, and want to kill me contributing.
Otherwise, ATS and life are God-damned boring as Hell, and I'd sooner kill myself.
Then be a dictator, a Puppet Dictator, and or someone who wants blind followers.
edit on 2/20/11 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth
and Insight Into the Post.
With the wide variety of topics on ATS I don't understand why people just don't go to the threads they have an interest or belief in. If there are
threads I disagree with I don't go there unless I want to read - making remarks and booing what you don't agree with is rude. I don't think we
need an option for this because it would infringe on free speech. Let's treat them as trolls and not feed them.
While I understand that psuedo skepticism is a problem with some topics, I cannot condone a preventative measure, like the one you propose in your
OP. First of all, if opinion is polarised on an issue, for instance Niburu, then you have to make a choice about how thick your skin is before you
post your thread.
If you have the gumption and the elbow grease to work up a FANTASTIC thread that pulls together into a truely awesome argument for your position,
rather than a rambling mess as such things can easily become, then you ought to have the brass nuts to just put up with the presence on your thread of
people who disagree. Otherwise there is NO point in having the discussion, or submitting the information you have to the board.
The whole idea of this forum, this WEBSITE is that the information here is exposed to a wide cross section of thinking styles, intellects, and
methods of examination, as practiced by the membership as a whole. It is not a place to aquire only the appreciation of like minds, and would be
greatly damaged by any move away from the all comers approach we currently work with.
Just because someone disagrees with your thinking, or your thread, or any of the content therein, does not mean that they are to be villified, or
prevented from commenting. What it means is, that you have to raise your game to the point where you can rise above all that with superior reasoning
and so on. If you are having trouble proving your point, or even arguing it then there are two possible causes for this. One is , your debating skills
may need a polish here and there, and the other could be far worse of course. That would be, your position may well be indefensible due to a logical
or factual collapse somewhere in the argument. If thats the case, either regroup and rethink your strategy in terms of the debate, or just pick your
topics more wisely and carefully.
There ARE those who will give you hassle just because they fancy to make someones life miserable today, and I hate that as much as anyone else, but
this here is the internet. It may be a centre of culture and information, but there are also an awful lot of lonely , depressed, passive agressive ,
broken people who like making everyone elses day difficult. When you come across these... just suck it up.
To cut a long story short, I refer you to Jim Carrey in Liar Liar :
I'm not saying that threads shouldn't have people disagreeing with the topic. For example; A person creates a thread about news, facts, ideas,
info on chemtrails or nibiru. Then in comes the flood of disbelievers, debunkers whining about how they DO NOT exist or posting one line jokes.
They just go completely off topic and attacks the OP and others who are actually staying on topic and CONTRIBUTING to the thread. I think people
should just stay on topic. If you don't think they exist, fine make a new thread about it.
awesome perfect example of someone not staying on topic and attacking the OP
4,726 posts? probably all posts that don't really contribute to the thread at all. I can post junk like that too in every thread if I wanted to as
well. I'll have thousands of posts.
edit on 21-2-2011 by balon0 because: (no reason given)
I can make a thread about Google hiding Nibiru in Google maps with a black box. You can make a thread about how Nibiru doesn't exist. How hard is
that? Instead of creating pages on its existence in my thread.
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