Ron Paul Announces Run for Presidency -- Indirectly. Let's Give Him a President's Day to Remember

reply to post by Sly1one

Actually if you want to keep the illusion alive in people that "their vote matters" and the "system works" when they are "waking up" to the corruption and paying attention more than ever to the political process....Ron Paul is EXACTLY what you would want...

Then why did they pull every dirty trick in the book to make sure he was not elected? I agree the system is a joke however unfortunately it is the system the majority believe in and we are stuck with it till enough people wake up to establish a real alternative.

He needs to have a "savior" and "breath of fresh air" appeal to the masses so when he is put in office were all so freaking happy we won't question anything about it.

This is complete and utter nonsense. Ron Paul's 30+ year track record is so squeaky clean if he deviated from it as president there would be a revolution by morning. His followers are not so mindless and trusting. Besides he is far from becoming president and even though vastly more popular today then in 2008 he is still an unlikely long shot.

The elite globalist bankers who have enslaved most of the world and skimmed off our earning for hundreds if not thousands of years now going to leave it all up to a vote?

Well of course not but if enough people became polarized to vote a certain way they could be over ridden. They rely more on ignorance and thier media machine then anything. If the people truly woke up the vote is in place to override them. However I agree it is highly unlikely.

TPTB don't leave lose ends...its not consistent with how well they have controlled people for god knows how long. You don't get to be TPTB by letting a Ron Paul slip through your fingers....hes the ultimate puppet to bring us under the "NEW ILLUSION" 2012

They have to, to a certain degree, or risk awakening the masses to thier fraud. they are confident in thier controls on media propaganda and the majorities willingness to be swayed by it that a Ron Paul is no real threat even as popular as he is. He likely cannot win the republican nomination. And has said in the past he will not run outside the party because it is impossible to win. However I think things are ripe that he could win outside the party now but it is still a long shot.

He is not puppet though, he can't be bought and he has no skeletons in his closet so they just continue to marginalize him as some extremist on the fringe and so far it has worked very well and they have every confidence it will work again because the majority of mindless voters are so predictable. it will be an uphill battle.

Also even this non-sense he is a puppet is put out by these people. I am not saying you are one of them I am just saying TPTB is where this originates. If you study the life of Ron Paul and his political track record you will see he has never compromised on his principles unlike EVERY OTHER POLITICIAN. Not characteristic of a puppet.

I was a huge Ron Paul supporter in 2008. I still believe in pretty much everything he talks about, smaller government etc...He looks, and smells legitimate, and that is what bugs me.

It just doesn't make sense that we have a legitimate president walking around as a breath of fresh air...

He is a long ways from becoming President and as I said as popular as he is still an unlikely long shot in making it through the highly controlled political machine to the presidency. I have no confidence in the system either it is broken and usurped however his running will serve to educate and wake more people up if nothing else IMO.

I like Ron Paul, but I really don't see him getting too far. I see the GOP stifling him harder than they did in 08.

Originally posted by skylightsintheillions
It really would be great for him to run independent, to see debates that normally only have 2 candidates, but w/ 3 instead. Now that would be a great sign..

I agree,
When the debates were run in the UK's parliamentary election last time we had 3 candidates running against each other in televised debates.
Why not take a leaf out of that like the UK did following on from the USA...

Ron Paul is the last hope that America has. His track record clearly speaks for himself, no matter what any naysayers say about it. You want America back? Then vote for Ron Paul or quit crying!

As someone who supported Ron Paul heavily from the beginning of his rise as a figure, I've seen my donations go to nothing, I've been called at all hours begging for donations, I've seen his website slowly go from a center of freedom discussion and debate, to a center of donation harrassment. Most pages lead to a donation grab.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather see someone like Ron Paul get in there, but I became disgusted with the movement I once supported (Campaign for Donations errr Liberty)

I cant help but be completely baffled at how some still have faith in the voting system...their HOPE relies so heavily on "the people" playing by the voting rules to change the game...I just have to ask, WHEN has this EVER worked?

I don't think the livelihoods of "the people" should rely on FAITH in the voting system and HOPE on the election of a "better president"...

with all the "awakening" going on I am surprised people still haven't caught on to this, or are so desperate to believe their "vote" will ever change anything.

Regardless of who the candidate is, what their voting record is and what pipe dreams they are selling to the American people to choke on next...

How many previous presidential candidates have been "hopeful" candidates for a "better America"??? How many people believed in their voting record and yada yada....aren't people tired of being played the same song over and over again?

Stop putting faith in the SYSTEM that you have lost faith in....makes no sense.

Changes won't be changes so long as they are not extreme changes, it will be same old crap 2.0 with a spring of superficial change...

People REALLY want change? You really value what Ron Paul is preaching? You really want to end the fed and want less government? i don't think you do....

Its comical the irony. One second the "people have the power" to change everything with "VOTES", then the next second "great now its up to HIM POTUS)" to actually change everything...so suddenly you lost all the "we the people" power you had...? It makes no sense at all...

don't leave it up to votes, don't leave it up to presidents, administration, institutions, and agencies, doing that is leaving it up to someone else, and once you do that...you have lost ALL that "people power" you believed in when you checked some boxes on a piece of paper and went back to American Idol an hour later....

reply to post by Sly1one

Actually if you want to keep the illusion alive in people that "their vote matters" and the "system works" when they are "waking up" to the corruption and paying attention more than ever to the political process....OBAMA is EXACTLY what you would want...

He needs to have a "savior" and "breath of fresh air" appeal to the masses so when he is put in office were all so freaking happy we won't question anything about it.

Been there done that, many had the bumper sticker, this is not 2008.

reply to post by Blue_Jay33


If we can convince the Democrat and Republican layman to stop voting party line and the disgruntled voter to stop voting for the "lesser of two evils" (remember, by definition they are still voting for evil) then Ron Paul has a chance.

Key to this is to help them understand there is no difference between the parties and they work for the central bankers who want perpetual wars (war on "terror", immigration, porn, drugs, poverty, etc).

Try to get those folks (which are a majority of voters) to watch this short, tour de force video:

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by crimvelvet


It's clear many in this thread understand the need to END THE FED.

If we can get most Democrat and Republican laymen to stop voting for the "lesser of two evils" (explain to them that by definition they are still voting for evil) then Ron Paul has a chance.

This brief tour de force video will help: www.youtube.com...

I like Ron Paul but he can't win. We have only elected one member of the House of Representatives and that was James Garfield who was elected in 1881.

Republicans have to be realistic at the end of the day. If Paul was a Senator or Governor he would have a better chance although Senators rarely get elected as well.

A very interesting point to remember is that Paul gets the most troop donations than anyone else
McCain is thought to be buddy buddy with the troops but Paul got more donations than him from soldiers

that sends a strong message

Even if he'd make it to president, it's too late to change the tide. Many of you won't believe me, like many Americans called me a fool when I said this economic crisis would happen, four years ago here on ATS, but the situation has become to severe that even Ron Paul can not reverse it.

Just offering my two cents, but what worrys me the most is that the media will simpily ignore Ron Paul's message, not giving him a fair share for election


It's simpily too libertarian for news outlets to broadcast. And thus, Ron's prudent and reasonable agenda will keep invisible from world's view. If the Republican Party holds strong as they are now, he has no chance of winning. You can't forget that old wizened Ron, if somehow winning the presidency, may also "die unexpectedly" in office.


And for all we know, he could be working for the thing which he was fighting against, the corrupted U.S. government by the coporations lobbying hand. Speaking words of freedom one day and voting renewal of the Patriot Act the next (Michelle Bachmann comes to mind ... LINK).


Seems like a lose-lose situation, honestly. But hey, if there's any chance of electing the RIGHT president ... it's now. Let's just hope corrupted Tea Partier Rand Paul doesnt run alongside his father for Vice President.

If you want Ron Paul to be the President, then take it upon yourself to put him in that position. Face it, the media will not cover him as much as the other candidates and with lack of exposure means no win. The best way is, we need to create a "hype" much of it in marketing. Lets take the revolution in Egyp for example. How that started, and how that came to be? The power of Social Networking. You want him to be the president? Then band together and start networking.

Originally posted by Tephra
As someone who supported Ron Paul heavily from the beginning of his rise as a figure, I've seen my donations go to nothing, I've been called at all hours begging for donations, I've seen his website slowly go from a center of freedom discussion and debate, to a center of donation harrassment. Most pages lead to a donation grab.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather see someone like Ron Paul get in there, but I became disgusted with the movement I once supported (Campaign for Donations errr Liberty)

I understand your frustration with that but can you really blame him??
Did you see the size of Obama's campaign fund?

It takes money to fight money..Adverts and air time cost money, as do posters and flyers..
Ron Paul will need millions if he is to have any chance..
Don't forget, he's not rich from backhand deals like the rest of them..

Just face facts, we are in an abyss - we are not getting out.

Ron Paul is against the mainstream, he doesn't have a chance of making it.


Just prep and get ready for the chaos.

reply to post by Mdv2


I agree. The billionaire's absolute corruption inside our governments shocks me. During my investigations into how sophisticated coporation infiltration has become I finally realize how hopeless it is trying to defeat these monsters via. conventional means...

...Means such as attempted mass-disobedience, anarchy, peaceful protest, and general warfare. These may have worked before, but times have changed. The game has transformed into something we're unable to contain nor control.

Forgive my ranting, please. But we must all consider changing our strategy if we are ever to defeat our common, resourceful and unforgiving enemy.

reply to post by Mdv2


I agree. The billionaire's absolute corruption inside our governments shocks me. During my investigations into how sophisticated coporation infiltration has become I finally realize how hopeless it is trying to defeat these monsters via. conventional means...

...Means such as attempted mass-disobedience, anarchy, peaceful protest, and general warfare. These may have worked before, but times have changed. The game has transformed into something we're unable to contain nor control.

Forgive my ranting, please. But we must all consider changing our strategy if we are ever to defeat our common, resourceful and unforgiving enemy.

reply to post by Mdv2


I agree. The billionaire's absolute corruption inside our governments shocks me. During my investigations into how sophisticated coporation infiltration has become I finally realize how hopeless it is trying to defeat these monsters via. conventional means...

...Means such as attempted mass-disobedience, anarchy, peaceful protest, and general warfare. These may have worked before, but times have changed. The game has transformed into something we're unable to contain nor control.

Forgive my ranting, please. But we must all consider changing our strategy if we are ever to defeat our common, resourceful and unforgiving enemy.

OK,I have never been much of a Ron Paul fan just because he is so different from anything I have been brainwash to accept,I'll admit that, but I am ready to learn and listen as to why this guy even has a chance to beat both side's(left and right) because that is what he will be fighting agenst.All in all this could be the revolution (peaceful) that a lot of us have been looking for.

If we just sit back and let the power's that be issue us another hand picked president then we are sure to have Obama another 4 year's,that is no doubt the plan just like McCain was the plan to hand Obama the presidentcy in 2008.The only suggestion I have is Ron Paul needs to pick a vice president right away,someone that support's his view's but is a little more connected to those of us that are affarid of such drastic change all at once,a buffer so to speak.Just a thought.