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Turkey Considers Chemical Castration For Rapists

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posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:29 PM
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Turkey Considers Chemical Castration For Rapists


www.huffingtonpost.com

Turkey's ruling party has proposed legalizing chemical castration as punishment for repeat rapists or pedophiles in a wide-ranging overhaul of sex abuse laws.

It also would almost double maximum prison terms served for sex offenses to 10 years. Convicted pedophiles would serve up to 18 years in prison while sexual abuse of children by parents, stepparents, siblings or guardians would be punishable by 27 years.
(visit the link for the full news article)

Turkey's ruling party proposes chemical castration for sex offenders, other sex abuse reforms

edit on 10-2-2011 by silo13 because: Time stamp is still off. This thread posted 20:29 Rome time.




posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:29 PM
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Hopefully the rest of the World will follow their example.

I especially applaud Turkey's increasing jail time for repeat offenders and extended sentences for predators who’s victims have been found to suffer psychological damage from their attack.

It's just outstanding they've implemented harsher prison terms for sexual violence within families much higher than attacks from strangers.

 
PLEASE READ: For clarity sake - please refrain from introducing the ‘age of consensual sex’ debate into this thread. This thread is NOT about ‘at what age’ is a person responsible or not. The focus of this thread is violent offenders, and sexual predators where there is NO consent and the sentencing of chemical castration and tougher prison sentencing for repeat offenders.
 

Chemical castration - breaking the cycle of paraphiliac recidivism


Chemical castration is neither castration nor sterilization. Unlike actual castration, no permanent physical change is wrought in the body by the administration of Depo Provera to "chemically castrate" a sex offender (Fitzgerald, 1990). Depo Provera is an FDA-approved birth control drug that quells the sex drive of sex offenders; it lowers testosterone levels in males by decreasing androgen levels in the bloodstream.(4) This, in theory, reduces the compulsive sexual fantasies of some types of sex offenders. Side effects from the drug have been rare and "are believed to be fully reversible with cessation of treatment."


For the sake of argument:



Arguments Against:


Forced castration violates a fundamental human right. However bad the crime, no government should have the right to physically alter a prisoner's body or interfere with his ability to reproduce.

This measure has been previously used by eugenicists as a way of preventing people from breeding, by the Nazis on those they considered undesirable, and by the Swedish to forcibly sterilize mental patients in the 1970s. It isn't something that a civilized 21st century society should allow.
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Arguments For:


The administration of libido-lowering drugs has been shown to cut re-offending rates from 40 per cent to five per cent.

The threat of chemical castration may act as a deterrent.

Unlike surgical castration, chemical castration is a humane procedure. It is already used as a treatment for prostate cancer.

Chemical castration has been implemented successfully, on a voluntary basis, in several European countries.
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posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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If it is for repeat rapists/child molesters, if the evidence is soundproof, and if it has no secondary health effects then I see no problem with this what so ever.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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I feel bad for the guy who meets a girl at a party, and she regrets the fun the next day after the alcohol wears off.


Deebo



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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i totally agree with this, but would it really have that big of an impact? molesters still have hands, they can be women, they could still take pictures of kiddie porn, etc

good idea but im not so sure it would necessarily work that well



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by Deebo
I feel bad for the guy who meets a girl at a party, and she regrets the fun the next day after the alcohol wears off.


Deebo


Deebo brings up a very good point, which is women who have consensual sex and then the next day regrets it and calls him a rapist. I agree with the idea but it obviously has some disadvantages. Think about if the U.S. were to follow Turkey's footsteps.
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posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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They would not have the desire to perform any sexual activity once castrated, so yes, it does solve the problem.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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Without balls you don't really have the testosterone to want to do that anymore. At least that's what I've heard.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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good idea but im not so sure it would necessarily work that well


The point here is they're taking an active step and doing something - instead of siting back and hoping the failed system (like the the USA) will work - even knowing it's failed.

Again, the harsher sentences - especially when the offender is a known family member? Great stuff. And if nothing else it will keep 'them' off the playgrounds etc.

peace



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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Without balls you don't really have the testosterone to want to do that anymore. At least that's what I've heard.


I think it's chemical, not physical, silly.


I'm all for it in the case of those who do harm to children!



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posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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I think it's chemical, not physical, silly.


What a shame huh...

Though you're right, Turkey is considering chemical castration.

Thanks

peace



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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I think it's chemical, not physical, silly.



What a shame huh...

Though you're right, Turkey is considering chemical castration.



Yes, tis a shame...

Hopefully, they will have someone else administering the chemicals if it goes through; too much room for non-compliance.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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What kind of civilised society would consider chemically castrating rapists ?

What's wrong with using a blunt knife ?



Seriously though, I don't think we should chemically castrate rapists, as firstly, it's much more simple just to keep them locked up in prison, and secondly, like the death penalty, if someone's conviction is later quashed, then there's not much you can do to reverse the original punishment.


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posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 01:57 PM
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About time laws that make sense. If your against the death penalty, especially for pedophiles, this is the next best thing!



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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By the way, the chemical castration works like the opposite of Viagra. It lowers the sex drive in offenders so they don't even feel the need to rape.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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Must tread carefully when it comes to this subject.. There are many cases where accused rapists never raped anyone at all. Sometimes calling rape is easier than admitting you made a mistake.. I've seen it happen a few times.

Sometimes they say they are raped for other reasons even though they never were raped.

I'm not siding with the rapists at all here. I'm just saying this subject is not as clear cut as all that.



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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Seriously though, I don't think we should chemically castrate rapists, as firstly, it's much more simple just to keep them locked up in prison, and secondly, like the death penalty, if someone's conviction is later quashed, then there's not much you can do to reverse the original punishment.



I think you can very easily reverse the original punishment by stopping the drugs/chemicals?



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by sonjah1
I think you can very easily reverse the original punishment by stopping the drugs/chemicals?


Is that so ?

I wasn't aware of that, I just thought that the procedure was irreversible. Having looked in to it, you're right, and it is a regular treatment that is administered.

If that's the case, then how do they go about administering this treatment to a released sex offender ? Does he have to make a monthly appointment to receive his next dose ?



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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Thanks for posting this OP. It's the best bit of news I've read this year.


Good news needs no second line...

Rev



posted on Feb, 10 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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If this thing becomes the law in Turkish Republic , it will be vigorously implemented .

Rapists will be required to go to their nearest hospital to get their monthly injections & blood and urine tests .

Of course none of this is ever going to stop a first time rapist , ever .

If you want to stop all rape , maybe all man should be micro chipped so when they feel rapey and criminal-like , their chip can alert the authorities without even the man in question realising it happening .



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