Bolton: If Mubarak falls in Egypt, Israel should bomb Iran

reply to post by Ben81


That would be the worst thing to do.

If the Middle Eastern revolutionary wave continues into Iran, Israel bombing them would only help the Mullahs stay in power. It would be everyone's benefit for the theocracy to lose power.

It would be best for us to closely monitor the situation and make sure the People have telecommunications and internet access.

reply to post by MikeboydUS


I'd say there is little to no chance of the people of Iran revolting...Iran's government would crush them.


And I kind of....big kind of...see what Bolton is saying. If Egypt falls...most likely it will be the Muslim Brotherhood who slips into power...and they will most likely ally with Iran. It is possible that they could get all the arab countries allied together...and then Israel is screwed.

So from Israel's point of view...one option may be to strike Iran first before Egypt potentially falls to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Originally posted by SoshhIsrael isn’t capable of a successful strike on Iran entirely by itself anyway, it won't happen.

Not to derail here but what makes you think this?

Or do you mean they couldn't handle any possible counter attack by a combined regional Arab force?

I would imagine they certainly are capable og mounting a devastating and cripling air strike on the nuke facility, which is what Bolton is talking about not an invasion - what Iranian AA/AAA system will stop them?

Certainly the Iranian Air Force of F5's and F14's that are 25+ years old are not going to do it either.

reply to post by MindSpin


Its highly unlikley Egypt is going to fall to the Muslim Brotherhood minority.

The majority of people in Egypt want peace and prosperity.

reply to post by Golf66


What I meant by that is a war on Iran has massive implications for the region and the world and if one were to occur then Israel would not be alone and it wouldn't be their decision alone either.

Iran may vindictively decide to block the Strait of Hormuz by mining it and utilising anti-ship missile launchers placed along the coast to halt the supply of oil, something that the US et al are extremely concerned about. They may also use Hezbollah and others to assault Israeli and US interests in the region. As you mentioned, a counter-attack by regional allies is also a possibility and Israel would probably require additional munitions and other means of support to destroy hardened/hidden facilities.

My point was that a war would be bigger than just Iran and Israel and so I consider it very unlikely that they would attack on a whim without others being heavily involved.

I see Israel charging back into the Sinai before bombing Iran. Take it and see what the new brudders in Egypt do. They either play nice or all hell breaks loose.

I too expect that Isreal will be forced to retake the sinai and stand at the banks of the suez.
It would not be in their interest to bomb iran and cause the retalliation that would follow.
Anyone bombong iran would have to practically bomb them to hell and back before they became ineffective at attacking isreal.
The Iranis are not arabs.They are Persians and we are dealing with entirely different peoples here.
Anyone remmember that iraq iran war?
iran was totally mobilised and even the kids were enlisted.They died by their thousands too in the fighting.
Anybody who thinks Iran is a pushover better rethink.

Originally posted by SoshhWhat I meant by that is a war on Iran has massive implications for the region and the world and if one were to occur then Israel would not be alone and it wouldn't be their decision alone either.

Fair enough; wasn't calling you out or anything just saying they "can" do it but its probably not a wise decision then...

I'm with you there with one caveat; if they feel that Obama has abandoned them to the Muslim Brotherhood I don't think they'd hesitate to act unilatterally for more than like 30 seconds.

Obama has little to no "street cred" in international politics and he's simply losing ground every day. I wonder who advises this guy on foreign policy - whoever it is needs to be fired.

Originally posted by Golf66
I'm with you there with one caveat; if they feel that Obama has abandoned them to the Muslim Brotherhood I don't think they'd hesitate to act unilatterally for more than like 30 seconds.

Obama has little to no "street cred" in international politics and he's simply losing ground every day. I wonder who advises this guy on foreign policy - whoever it is needs to be fired.

That’s the problem with trying to be everything to everyone, you aren’t anything to anybody! Since when are France your closest ally? Something is wrong with that man, we can only hope that he isn't still around when all of this eventually "goes down".

Neocons Attack Egyptian Dissident Mohamed ElBaradei, Again

And again. And again.

Well I hope he pisses them off again.

HANNITY: Do you think that the Israelis are going to have to strike — they are going to have to take action. … As you pointed out, El Baradei, you know, ran cover for the Iranians for all those years that he was with the IAEA. And, I just don’t think the Israelis have much longer to wait…they’re going to have to act in fairly short order.

BOLTON: I think that’s right. I don’t think there’s much time to act. And I think the fall of a Egyptian government committed to the peace agreement will almost certainly speed that timetable up.

This thread is a delusion. A brain-twisting exercise in forcing the round-peg of Western thought into the square hole of Islamic thought. Entertaining but ultimately completely wrong.

There is no revolution in Egypt or the Middle East, there is Jihad.

Obama has really got his tit in the ringer this time. I don't think they have any idea what they are dealing with, literally caught with their pants down again. Remember, Barry's never had a real job in his life, and he's leading the free world. The man is not a leader. The people around him are not qualified to speak for the majority of Americans. When you have socialists advising on and administering foriegn policy, something is wrong.

reply to post by dillweed


Obama knows exactly what he is doing. He made a speech in Egypt basically saying he supports the rise of an Islamic state in Egypt. He recently went on television to tell the Muslim Brotherhood to act now.

He may as well be leading the Jihad!

Obama - muslim. Jihad loving muslim.

Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
reply to post by dillweed

 

Obama knows exactly what he is doing. He made a speech in Egypt basically saying he supports the rise of an Islamic state in Egypt. He recently went on television to tell the Muslim Brotherhood to act now.

He may as well be leading the Jihad!

Obama - muslim. Jihad loving muslim.

edit on 2-2-2011 by mike_trivisonno because: (no reason given)

Obama wrote in his book that when the time comes he will stand with the mooslims. It appears the time has come and Israel is left twisting in the breeze right now.

Originally posted by dillweed
Remember, Barry's never had a real job in his life, and he's leading the free world.

Political career aside, I think I'd call Law a real job. Reverse elitism is just stoopid, eh?

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
In every situation regarding the future of the United States, I feel that because of the lack of documentation in regards to the career of Barry O, that he would be the least qualified man to discuss the situation, at least 99 percent of the time. He is the epitome of an elitist, and in my opinion, unjustifiably so. We know virtually nothing about him. You think that's an accident?

Originally posted by dillweed
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

 

In every situation regarding the future of the United States, I feel that because of the lack of documentation in regards to the career of Barry O, that he would be the least qualified man to discuss the situation, at least 99 percent of the time. He is the epitome of an elitist, and in my opinion, unjustifiably so. We know virtually nothing about him. You think that's an accident?

You still beating that horse? He was elected. Live with it ...you still have elections.

reply to post by Ben81


I've been reading several stories and predictions that frankly to be honest I'm not even paying attention anymore. I would guess its been about 4 years since I've been waiting for the SHTF moment. Maybe ATS should have a PREDICTIONS forum or perhaps a survey button and post the results on a daily basis.