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Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by sara123123
There's no stopping the birthers, they aren't interested in the truth.
Originally posted by sara123123
reply to post by whatukno
Afterbirthers are going to be left crying in their beer on this one.
Originally posted by WTFover
reply to post by v1rtu0s0
So, if Fox News lies and they are reporting the fact this guy lied...... Does that mean the guy really didn't lie?
So, if Fox News lies and they are reporting the fact this guy lied...... Does that mean the guy really didn't lie?
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by whatukno
Yea that's right folks, he made it ALL UP, gee, another Birther lie exposed,
And you sometimes wonder why they continue to bring up Mr Tim Adams and Obamas grandmother when these claims are completely unauthenticated . But hey, birthers may feel that making a "little" lie here and there is justified enough to demand Obama's birth certificate. That is logic for ya.
If people make mistakes and admit they were misinformed, I have no problem with that, but to this day I have not seen one birther hold themselves accountable over the countless lies out there.
Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate Signs affidavit declaring long-form, hospital-generated document absent Read more: Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate www.wnd.com...
Gilford Securities, founded in 1979, is a full-service boutique investment firm headquartered in NYC providing financial services to institutional and retail clients, from investment banking and equity research to retirement planning and wealth management. The views, opinions, positions or strategies of the author are his alone, and do not necessarily reflect those of Gilford Securities. Gilford Securities makes no representations as to accuracy, completeness, currentness, suitability or validity of any information herein and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses, injuries, or damages arising from its display or use.
Arizona may have the most advanced plan, but 10 of the United States – controlling 107 Electoral College votes – are now considering some type of legislation that would plug the hole in federal election procedures that in 2008 allowed Barack Obama to be nominated, elected and inaugurated without providing proof of his qualifications under the U.S. Constitution.
And they aren't all the simple legislation such as that adopted in New Hampshire a year ago that requires an affidavit from a candidate stating that the qualifications – age, residency and being a "natural born citizen" – have been met.
In Georgia, for example, HB37 by Rep. Bobby Franklin not only demands original birth-certificate documentation, it provides a procedure for and declares that citizens have "standing" to challenge the documentation.
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by JohhnyBGood
You have never actually read the full article have you?
Gilford Securities, founded in 1979, is a full-service boutique investment firm headquartered in NYC providing financial services to institutional and retail clients, from investment banking and equity research to retirement planning and wealth management. The views, opinions, positions or strategies of the author are his alone, and do not necessarily reflect those of Gilford Securities. Gilford Securities makes no representations as to accuracy, completeness, currentness, suitability or validity of any information herein and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses, injuries, or damages arising from its display or use.
Read more: Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate www.wnd.com...
What does this matter? Well, this basically shows that Jerome Corsi, senior managing director of the Financial Services Group at Gilford Securites, the writer of this article is pulling this entire thing out of his ass, and had to add that legal in order to not be sued into oblivion.
Originally posted by jibeho
Just for the record here, WND is reporting the story of Evans alleged tall tale.
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by jibeho
If WND was a real news source, they would not need any disclaimer whatsoever, if they were reporting facts and not making anything up, they wouldn't be liable for anything.
But this disclaimer shows that in fact this is a lie, and the company the "reporter" (used in the loosest possible sense of the word) works for doesn't want any legal action to damage them arising from their employees outright lies.
Take any news article from CNN, from FOX News, from any legitimate news source, and that disclaimer will not be there because they simply do not need it.
But WND needs it, and the reason they need it is because they are simply a tabloid bull [snip] pseudo news rag and nothing more. The Weekly World News probably has more journalistic integrity.
Originally posted by 46ACE
reply to post by schuyler
Good question for the more philosophical members:" is a "liar" lying when he says:" this is the truth"?
Originally posted by whatukno
If a person claims to be a journalist, they should have integrity and not lie and misrepresent what is actually said.
Originally posted by schuyler
I heard the original broadcast. There wasn't any doubt about what he said. It was unequivocal. There are two choices here.
1. he lied, completely 100% lied
2. He was told to recant, or else.
Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
Tim Adams statement is Authenticated - as you well know! - unlike any of Barry's claims to be elligible.
I believe Pres. Obama was born a United States citizen, and is eligible to hold office, I find the idea that because he was probably born outside of the U.S., he must be some kind of alien to be basically racist. I do think we should close this issue and pass legislation requiring office seekers to prove identity before running for elected office.
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