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reply posted on 26-8-2004 @ 03:51 AM by jezebel
One of the primary arguments in favor of the death penalty is based on the notion that capital punishment serves as a deterrent to crime. While it is true that we cannot know how many people decided not to commit murder, because they feared being put to death, we do have statistics showing the increase/decrease of violent crimes in non-death penalty states vs. death penalty states:
As executions rose, states without the death penalty fared much better than states with the death penalty in reducing their murder rates. The gap between the murder rate in death penalty states and the non-death penalty states grew larger (as shown in Chart II). In 1990, the murder rates in these two groups were 4% apart. By 2000, the murder rate in the death penalty states was 35% higher than the rate in states without the death penalty. In 2001, the gap between non-death penalty states and states with the death penalty again grew, reaching 37%. For 2002, the number stands at 36%. www.deathpenaltyinfo.org...

If you look at the graphs on the above link, is should be fairly obvious that the crime deterrent argument doesn't really hold much water.

Next, put yourself into the shoes of one of the 113 former death row inmates who have been exonerated since 1973. You can read a brief explanation of each of their stories here
How many more innocent people do you think have been killed by the state because of corruption, dishonesty, apathy or predjudice? Who should pay the price for the wrongful taking of an innocent life at the hands of the state? Doesn't the family of such a person deserve the same chance at revenge for the murder of their loved one as anyone else? How can there be any exuse or justification for the taking of an innocent human being's life? You can't give back someone's life, once you have chosen to play God, and taken it.
As of February 2004, 113 inmates had been found innocent and released from death row. More than half of these have been released in the last 10 years. That means one person has been exonerated for every eight people executed.

A study by Columbia University professor James Liebman examined thousands of capital sentences that had been reviewed by courts in 34 states from 1973 to 1995. “An astonishing 82 percent of death row inmates did not deserve to receive the death penalty,” he said in his conclusion. “One in twenty death row inmates is later found not guilty.”

In many other cases, it was good fortune rather than the criminal justice system that established innocence. In several cases, college or law school students investigated cases and unearthed essential evidence. For example, students in an investigative journalism class at Webster University uncovered evidence of misconduct by prosecutors, who talked a witness into giving false testimony and withheld crucial trial evidence, and helped get a new trial for Louisiana death row inmate Richard Clay.

Although there has been much attention surrounding the use of DNA testing, only 13 death row inmates of 113 have been exonerated by use of DNA. www.aclu.org...


It is a given that our current penetentiaries are a joke. Prisoners are treated to luxuries, such as cable tv, while law-abiding citizens must pay for it. There is no question, that we are in serious need of a prison overhaul. If it were up to me, prisons would be self-sufficient, i.e., grow their own food, generate their own electricity, etc., and non-violent non-lifers would be given mandatory counseling and education. Violent prisoners, sentenced to life, should be thrown on an uninhabited and remotely guarded island in the middle of nowhere, and alllowed to fend for themselves. Taxpayers should not be expected to pay for the maintenance of those who have committed wrongs against them.

That being said, the fact that our prisons and criminal justice systems need to be overhauled, isn't a valid justification for the state-santioned killing of our fellow humans. How can we expect to be taken seriously when we say, "Thou shalt not kill" if we follow up by saying "unless the government wants you to"?

To take another man's life is not a trivial thing, even when the condemned has done something horrific.
Has anyone ever stopped and thought about what the psychological effects might be on those who are responsible for actually taking the prisoner's life? What type of person could remain unaffected by such duties? How much value do you think they place on human life? If a man in charge of executing prisoners, were to secretly enjoy the taking of another man's life, wouldn't he just be a glorified serial killer, operating with the government's blessings? Does the fact that he is provided with his victims, rather than having to select his own, make this ok?

I have several other reasons why capital punishment is wrong, but this is all I will write for now.


reply posted on 26-8-2004 @ 06:14 AM by jezebel
Originally posted by jdster
I would really like someone who is against the death penalty to
elaborate on thier opinion of the rights of surviving relatives and
friends.

They have the same rights as anyone else who has been the victim of a crime:
1. participate in the criminal justice system;
2. obtain benefits from a fund established by the state to compensate crime victims;
3. receive restitution ordered by the criminal court;
4. recover a judgment for damages in a civil action against the criminal, accessories, or negligent third-party defendants;
5. be free of intimidation;
6. share in profits from exploitation of the criminal's version of the crime;
7. seek alternative dispute resolution
They also have the right to grieve, be angry, hate the responsible party, and, hopefully, heal over time.
If you are implying that they have the right to exact revenge against the person who caused the death of their loved one, no, according to the law they don't. They are not legally allowed to hunt down and kill the person they think is responsible for their loved one's death, even if they know for a fact who the guilty party is.
Also, if someone has been proved guilty of murder, I would
like to see them explain to the survivors why the murderer does
not deserve to die.
The murderer may very well deserve to die, but that doesn't mean that we are justified in carrying out that sentence.
What reason would you give to someone who's wife and child was killed by a drunk driver, when they want him to pay for the lives he took with his own, but instead he gets 3-5 years for manslaughter? Shouldn't the death penalty be applied to anyone who takes the life of another, whether it was intentional or not?
Who should be held accountable for the wrongful death of an inmate, when he is executed but later it's proven that he was innocent? What do you tell his family? "Oops, sorry! I guess we goofed." If he was executed for taking the life of an innocent person, but he wasn't guilty, shouldn't someone else be executed for taking his innocent life? What about the doctor who, due to negligence, causes the death of his/her patient? If the victim's family wants him to pay for his negligence with his life, shouldn't he be given the death penalty? Where do you draw the line and who should make that decision? Should it be made based on an emotional reaction to a traumatic experience, or should it be based on rationality and objectivity by someone who is not consumed with the desire for revenge?
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