Nans DESMICHELS not many of the pople who post here speak and or read French, can you provide an english version

Revelation 9:11
And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon.




[Edited on 20-3-2003 by ~*§±Gl¯W-ßtÔ©k§‹ÔÒJ±§*~]

it's satan.

Remember when Gandolf falls into the endless darkness while fighting some beast. I am not a Lord of the Rings expert so I can't really make this special or anything. Does anyone else have an opinion???

I believe Lilith is a djinn or shapeshifter of some sort, and not an angel created by God. Abaddon is an angel and many believe his energy to be a holy one. Obviously all of God's angels have a purpose, even the so called evil ones. Some scholars even theorize that Lucifer was cast down because his intense love for the creator was so strong that he blasphemed and held contempt for His children, an unforgivable sin, but God gives him a purpose and he enlightens and becomes a sort of lightbearer to all of his brethren.

In my opinion if Abaddon is really Satan, scripture would say so and it would be blatant. To assume it's just random, tossing names of angels like urban legends and if the prophets were a bunch of halfwits of randomization who came up with symbolic metaphors... Ummmm.... That's ridiculous. The word is timeless and I know this 100%.

Maybe he binds the devil, possibly a demon of some kind, djinn or a shapeshifting decepticon reptilian or whatever you guys would say, but I do not think God being so perfect would create an angel like that. I hear people say "why did God create the devil if he is so good?". Well, maybe he didn't... Maybe something else did. A time traveling supercomputer consciousness holographic organism, who knows, there's no way to really know for sure, I just hope my words inspire something closer to the truth. I don't want to spoil too much.

Here's the only good quote I could find on Wikipedia. Fortunately it's from the bible, God bless it! @=o)>

"In Revelation 20:2 he "laid hold of the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years". According to the foregoing, Apollion is a holy (good) angel, servant, and messenger of God; but in occult and, generally, in noncanonical writings, he is evil."

Go figure. And no it's not Obama. Or Osama... Or HItler, or whatever else people want to believe. Angels are awesome, part of God's messengers, workers, divine leaders, beautiful beings, star energies, love them and they love too, repentance will upgrade you! Pretty cool...

God bless!

Maybe he really likes the water or something and the elementals destroy with him. You never know. The possibilities are endless. I guess nobody can really say for sure...

Poor Lilith. Trapped spirit.

One more random thing. To really learn the truth, you have to go out and make it happen. Pry deep into the illusions, there's always another one when you think you have it all figured out. Just repent and you'll all be fine, don't worry. Be a love machine. Convert the negative energy. Transceive darkness reflect lightbeams.

Just some random stuff. I'm not trying to look like one of these fake channeling disinformation deceivers for all the non-believers.

God bless! 4 real

I assume things too though sometimes. I'm a damned sinner myself. Call me a hypocrite. Still I do know a few things. Just thought I would share my opinions too. Interesting internet site. I wonder if they have anything here about these star machines or whatever they're following people with. Seems to me like the real mark of the beast. Perhaps a collective consciousness ruled by cybernetics and corrupt military contractor money, stealing people's divine connection to God? Star energy thieves?

Better recognize...

Originally posted by Rogue Chris
it's satan.

NO....

Try this for a search term. Azazel

It is the name of one of the fallen angels from The book of the prophet Enoch. There is an entire list of angels that
went down to earth to do the "eve" thing. Their offspring caused much trouble and the angels on earth tried to deal with it by teaching man advanced techniques like weapon making. Azazel was credited with teaching mankind the art of war and metal forging, so even though he was not in charge of the earthbound operation (another angel named Samjaza was) he caught the worst of the wrath of the avenging angels from god who had Azazel bound hand and foot and thrown down a great abys in the middle of the desert where he is to stay till judgement day. The ancient name Azazel is now affiliated with "scapegoat"

Proposed mythical locations for the hell hole are the Sinai desert, somewhere in the wilds of yemen. under a zigguarat in Iraq or Iran. and even under mecca.

There is still a lot of un-secured real estate in the area too. Iran, the last pockets of pakastan ..................

Oh and now china want's to play too................................"Hey guys let's go dig up the emperor"