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Chinese Troops Deploying In North Korea

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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 07:53 AM
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Chinese Troops Deploying In North Korea


www.pakalertpress.com

South Korea’s daily newspaper is reporting that what Western analysts have feared has happened: Chinese troops have been deployed into North Korea. The Chinese now have a presence in the rogue state for the first time in more than 15 years
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 07:53 AM
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USA will think twice before making any further move

Is that a sign of the waking up of the beast
all those us carriers now have no choice but to back up ..
we dont want to piss off China...

They are in the present time THE superpower
not to underestimate
by doing this .. they have given full support to NK
will Kim jung ill make a move since he his now fully protected..


www.pakalertpress.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Article:

China has had no military presence in the rogue country since 1994 after it quit the Military Armistice Commission that supervises the Armistice that suspended the Korean war.

Since that time, Pyonyang has stridently announced that it will no longer abide by the agreement. During 2010 the North Korean government officially declared that it is once again in a state of war with South Korea and the U.S.


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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 07:58 AM
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China is definitely not "THE" superpower. Their cutting edge weapons being unveiled have finally caught up with our 20 year old common technology, and despite popular opinion we don't owe them a very large percentage of our national debt. We owe the vast majority of it to ourselves, and after that Japan ranks #1. On top of all that, North Korea already had the largest standing army in the world, so a few more Chinese infantrymen really makes no difference, and our Carrier groups do not care how many men are on the ground, because they are 100 miles offshore lobbing million dollar weapons at their targets.

If the article is true, it is concerning that China has chosen this approach instead of reigning in the NK government, but most diplomatic news is saying the opposite. It is more likely that any Chinese troops in NK would be there to watch the NK government and assist the US in keeping a lid on things in the region.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:00 AM
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cool,

now kim will think twice.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:02 AM
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Yes the cracks are starting to appear even politically,Who gives a damn attitude is coming out,be weary people very weary even TPTB are loosing it,WAKE UP this is not a cosmic dream ride you are all about to be smacked in the face....wikilieaks was only the start of something hidden but now becoming revealed,revelation.....the signs are there.
Something allways historically vias powers to want to control when necessity needs,cracks are appearing ,peace to all if there will be ,then let it be !
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:02 AM
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wow that is the last thing we need is war with n. korea , expecially if the chinese are backing them , i think we woul see war on u.s soil. I have trouble believing china would do this as im sure a war with the UN would greatly affect there economy.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:07 AM
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so a few more Chinese infantrymen really makes no difference, and our Carrier groups do not care how many men are on the ground, because they are 100 miles offshore lobbing million dollar weapons at their targets.


Could make some pretty new reef of those carrier groups also..

After years of conjecture, details have begun to emerge of a "kill weapon" developed by the Chinese to target and destroy U.S. aircraft carriers.

First posted on a Chinese blog viewed as credible by military analysts and then translated by the naval affairs blog Information Dissemination, a recent report provides a description of an anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM) that can strike carriers and other U.S. vessels at a range of 2000km.

www.military.com...

I wouldn't underestimate the Chinese too much...



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:11 AM
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I am only a little worried.
as if they wonted a war.
they would have started as soon as the troops got there.
and not given the south time to get ready and get more support.
there is a possibility that china is stopping the north from any attacks?
or just making shore the south dos not start any thing.
OR China could be taking over the north!
they took over Tibet.
tell me who would do Any thing if China did take over?
the south are trouble.
china is just stopping it.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Ben81
 


China is definitely not "THE" superpower. Their cutting edge weapons being unveiled have finally caught up with our 20 year old common technology, and despite popular opinion we don't owe them a very large percentage of our national debt. We owe the vast majority of it to ourselves, and after that Japan ranks #1. On top of all that, North Korea already had the largest standing army in the world, so a few more Chinese infantrymen really makes no difference, and our Carrier groups do not care how many men are on the ground, because they are 100 miles offshore lobbing million dollar weapons at their targets.

If the article is true, it is concerning that China has chosen this approach instead of reigning in the NK government, but most diplomatic news is saying the opposite. It is more likely that any Chinese troops in NK would be there to watch the NK government and assist the US in keeping a lid on things in the region.


It depend on how you see someone fit the superpower word ..

China his the Top1 ranked army in the world dont forget that..
they have Nukes and many other big arsenal at their disposition
sorry but the USA will be no match vs China even vs NK alone the us would have trouble

Irak and Afghanistan ...2 decades wars that are still flaming ... the USA army cannot afford another war
and they know it ... thats why the next wars will be so destructive and will piss off many people since only missiles and big nukes will be used ...no troops lost this time

Nagasaki and Hiroshima happen why no one banned the us to have nukes EVER .. now they have around 6000 thousand .. ready to blow earth if they loose

but can we agree that the US is searching trouble ... so arrogant for nothing .. only the worst can happen now



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:18 AM
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I do business with multiple companies in China as does many US companies. A war with NK would certainly destroy trade I have with China.
The United States needs to with draw from South Korea and remain neutral in this upcoming conflict between SK and NK.
This is why the founding fathers were right about avoiding entangling alliances.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:21 AM
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This was President Hu Jintao message to Obama

China's President Hu Jintao to begin US state visit


Chinese President Hu Jintao is expected to arrive in the US later for a four-day state visit, in a crucial meeting of the world's two biggest powers.

Analysts say Mr Hu's visit is the most important by a Chinese leader in 30 years given China's growing military, economic and diplomatic clout.

Relations have been strained on issues from currency controls and trade disputes to human rights and Taiwan.

Talks are also expected to include North Korea's nuclear activities.

US President Barack Obama will host a private dinner on Tuesday for Mr Hu at the White House.

This will be followed on Wednesday by talks in the Oval Office and a state dinner. Mr Hu is also expected to travel to Chicago.

Sensitive issues

China's foreign ministry called Mr Hu's visit "an important one".


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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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We can certainly agree that the US is in plenty of places it doesn't belong, and that it does a far better job of making enemies than friends. I am not at all happy with our foreign policy.

As for the strengths of militaries though, I believe novices such as ourselves vastly underestimate the level of technology that is available to many countries, but especially the US. Most classified tech doesn't become common knowledge until 25 years after its tactical advantage was realized. Therefore, since B2 and Joint Stealth Fighters are common knowledge, we have to assume there is something at least 25 years advanced from those platforms. Space-based weapons and kinetic weapons are theorized and likely already in use.

The reason nobody sought to stop the proliferation of US weapons, is because nobody had the power to do so. Nobody in the world wants the US as an enemy. Even the old USSR could only counter our military prowess by the "mutual destruction" doctrine. They produced enough nuclear weapons to destroy the whole world and then they rigged a dead man's switch so that the US would be assured of mutual destruction if we attempted to go to war with them. This was their only option at the time, because they could not match our technology.

World Wars are a thing of the past. The military technology of the US is so far superior to the rest of the world that nobody dares challenge it. The atrocities that the US gets away with are evidence of the intimidation factor. Very few countries even risk criticizing the US. China is no exception. As long as China doesn't fear an invasion of their homeland, they will never risk making such a powerful enemy. The only thing that keeps the US military in check is the US greed! We use surgical strikes and urban warfare to give the impression that we care about civilians and keep our trading partners pacified. We don't use 5% of our destructive capability.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by robwerden
I do business with multiple companies in China as does many US companies. A war with NK would certainly destroy trade I have with China.
The United States needs to with draw from South Korea and remain neutral in this upcoming conflict between SK and NK.
This is why the founding fathers were right about avoiding entangling alliances.

In hindsight when something global is going to happen anyway would you care,think about it !Those in the know.Infact latest magnetosphere data..coincidence www2.nict.go.jp...
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:37 AM
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China is not "the" superpower. They have a lot of people (hungry mouths), And spend about 1/10 what the US spends. As seen in Misoir's new thread, they only hold 7.5% of our debt. And all their soldiers have almost no battle experience outside of chasing down villagers that only have sticks.


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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
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We can certainly agree that the US is in plenty of places it doesn't belong, and that it does a far better job of making enemies than friends. I am not at all happy with our foreign policy.

As for the strengths of militaries though, I believe novices such as ourselves vastly underestimate the level of technology that is available to many countries, but especially the US. Most classified tech doesn't become common knowledge until 25 years after its tactical advantage was realized. Therefore, since B2 and Joint Stealth Fighters are common knowledge, we have to assume there is something at least 25 years advanced from those platforms. Space-based weapons and kinetic weapons are theorized and likely already in use.

The reason nobody sought to stop the proliferation of US weapons, is because nobody had the power to do so. Nobody in the world wants the US as an enemy. Even the old USSR could only counter our military prowess by the "mutual destruction" doctrine. They produced enough nuclear weapons to destroy the whole world and then they rigged a dead man's switch so that the US would be assured of mutual destruction if we attempted to go to war with them. This was their only option at the time, because they could not match our technology.

World Wars are a thing of the past. The military technology of the US is so far superior to the rest of the world that nobody dares challenge it. The atrocities that the US gets away with are evidence of the intimidation factor. Very few countries even risk criticizing the US. China is no exception. As long as China doesn't fear an invasion of their homeland, they will never risk making such a powerful enemy. The only thing that keeps the US military in check is the US greed! We use surgical strikes and urban warfare to give the impression that we care about civilians and keep our trading partners pacified. We don't use 5% of our destructive capability.


Spot on. The US military is far superior to any nations military.

One point people forget to think about is in order for one country to defeat another there has to be an invasion of the defeated country. There will never be a US invasion, not in our life time. There may be attempts but never a successful occupation. With the US having almost as many private guns as military it would be impossible to take the US soil. People think they have seen gorilla warfare but you haven't seen nothing yet. Invade the US and you would wake a very powerful sleeping giant. The American people would fight tooth and nail to defeat any invader.
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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:43 AM
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You do have a point ... the US have certain strength capabilities but also has China

the only way to defeat the US would be to invade it by all side .. China could put a hundred thousand boots in each american cities

China is not dumb .. they know they have certain disavantages vs the US .. they will think twice before making a move .. and they would not want their country to be affected by any war since i presume they fear the mighty american nukes

by taking hostage the american population .. the us gov will have to bow down and not nuking China

So my conclusion .. China can YES defeat the USA if they launch a surprise invasion attack

you will say :
but the radars can detect any ships coming from miles without speaking of the satellites in space ...

im sure they have a way to jam the radar with a electro magnetic burst
once the radars are off line .. its show time

(they did jam certain US satellites in the past)

they look all prepare for this long planned invasion and by doing this they will be grabbing more land to live
since they have conquered it ..
China needs more place for its chinese citizens .. they are packed up together in that country

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posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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china owns nk more than the us

sk japan etc nothing will happen.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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China is not alone ... reunite all the man power of China allies and compare them to the US allies

20 millions army man VS apx 1 millions(nato included)

but Russia + China = USA

both superpower will have to unite to defeat the US and scare hillary clinton to back off



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:51 AM
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As others have said, there will never be an invasion of the US mainland. Not unless they first take away all the privately owned guns.

Gun Sales 2009 surpass 14 million

The US private citizens buy more guns every year than most major militaries. They do this year after year, so imagine how many guns are in the hands of US citizens. The old USSR military gurus admitted that they would never invade the US, because the US populace was impossible to control.

Plus, China is does not have an empire building agenda like the US and Europe has. China has historically remained defensive in nature.

Plus, China stands to gain a lot more with economic relations than it does through a war. We are China's biggest consumer, going to war with the US would damage their economy significantly. This is also the reason China will back the US on the Korean Peninsula. They aren't going to let the ego of a maniacal dictator damage the honeypot they have with US consumers and corporations.



posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:51 AM
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666 in my profile
.. its not a good sign


EDIT : ahh no more .. i didnt want to get stuck on that number LOL
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