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Originally posted by roughhouse
For a short response to such an inquisition I would say: Let the people live and learn.
For a longer response I would expand on what exactly I mean by that. But also, I would question if humanity would become an "intergalactic" threat any time soon
originally posted by Wolf321
On behalf of humanity, I concur with the accusations presented. My suggestion: As humanity has not garnered respect for itself or the world in which it lives, despite opportunity and warning, I suggest humanity NOT be destroyed by your graces, but instead be made to continue to suffer its own injustices until it destroys itself, as it most certainly will. Humanity has not earned such an easy way out.
Originally posted by Wolf321
reply to post by sinohptik
You timing on this thread is coincidental for me. This past week have have been thinking a great deal about the judgment of humanity. If God were to ask me if humanity was worth saving, I most certainly would say no, despite any good things we have done, or are even capable of doing. Of course, this is as a whole.
I don't see any reason humanity could or even should be given consideration with what it is comprised of now. However, should nature or God or whatever you believe be able to prune the tree of its diseased limbs, and ideally with some explanation and guidance, then it would be possible and I welcome it.
So, what is to be said in defense?
Originally posted by sinohptik
So, what is to be said in defense?”
Originally posted by SystemResistor
I think the main problem that we have is what is described in Economics as the "Tragedy of the Commons" - we all take a small piece of the worlds natural resources (individually) so none of us can ever really feel responsible for the total depletion of the worlds resources. In the old days, when they used to hunt whales, they never thought that the whales would "run out" - but now we know. The same thing goes for trees and deforestation. If you want to know who is to "blame" then you have to look at it scientifically, and see those who are eating/consuming without using that energy to provide work. For example, the Western world is about 15% of the worlds population, however we consume about 75% of the worlds resources. We basically sit around for most of the time watching television, mean while, overseas, people are spending thier time working very hard to just have enough food to survive. In terms of justice, nature will solve such problems, as we over-eat, we suffer from record levels of obesity/cancers/heart and lung diseases, as we over-indulge in entertainment, we become increacingly shallow, eventually losing our emotions and losing our souls, suffering from record levels of depression and insanity. We are already falling apart, it is only a matter of time.
originally posted by Vinay86
There is nothing to be said in defense of humanity, they are not only accelerating themselves towards extinction but millions of other species would also be extinct with them if they don't change their behavior and Darwinian belief systems. But if humans recognize that they are creating this dilemma and take responsibility for it, than i believe they would be able to return earth to its previous harmony and glory.
originally posted by 547000
My point is that nature works this way. Something else always has to suffer or die so another entity may live. If plants could cry they totally would. The way the whole ecosystem runs on this idea. It's only natural that humans or some other dominant species would destroy their home. I think the distinction between artificial and natural is silly, because humans are natural. So no matter how bad things are it's only nature running its course, except through the form of humans. Would you kill all dolphins to save the ocean, or would you let nature run its course?
originally posted by mysticnoon
In defense of humanity, please consider the unnatural condition the soul finds itself, trapped in the human body on this earth.
Humanity, by and large, has been separated from its orginal Home of bliss and unending love, and has been left to struggle blindly against the powerful compulsions of the unconscious while facing unforgiving and hostile forces of nature. There is no lasting comfort in this world, and existence itself is uncertain and fragile, with death itself barely a breath away.
It is a wonder that humanity has achieved so much, and even manages to show a measure of love and compassion in word and deed.
I think humanity has written in blood and tears the hero's journey, and for that it has earned a hero's reward.
originally posted by Cecilofs
Forgive them Lord, for they know not what they do!