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Originally posted by TrickmastertricK
Calm down here, it does not mention it was "Stolen" and who would have stolen it?
If anyone would check the links I provided above, The US moved this material from Iraq to, only speculation right now -->, the Y-12 site in Tennesse. We have conflicting reports as to where this material "Actually" came from.
Originally posted by nyarlathotep
OK, sorry, didn't mean to get all excited, but the article does say:
until last year's U.S.-led invasion of Iraq when it was left unguarded and looted by Iraqi civilians.
Originally posted by TrickmastertricK
Saddam, in my opinion, was not as big a threat to the world as GW made him out to be. He did not threaten the US or anyone else in the last 10 yrs. Meanwhile NK is building nucleur weapons rather than feeding their people.
Let's here what all of the anti-war people are going to say about this now.
It really can only be used for one thing: making a bomb.
I think you are missing the point. They STOLE the enriched uranium to make a freaking bomb. Calling it slightly enriched doesn't keep it from being weapons grade uranium does it? It was stolen for one purpose: To make a weapon of mass destruction.
Originally posted by nyarlathotep
You are correct, I was wrong. Not a very good excuse, I will admit that. As Roseanne, Roseanna Danna used to say: NEVERMIND!
[edit on 7-8-2004 by nyarlathotep]
Originally posted by Jakomo
nyarl: Hey, I thought my anger was a gift!
This is radioactive WASTE that was known about for YEARS. It's a byproduct of nuclear power, which Iraq used to have.
So as an anti-war person, I say this is garbage. It's nuclear WASTE it's not bombs.
In a secret operation, the United States last month removed from Iraq nearly two tons of uranium and hundreds of highly radioactive items that could have been used in a so-called dirty bomb, the Energy Department disclosed Tuesday
Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham described the previously undisclosed operation, which was concluded June 23, as “a major achievement” in an attempt to “keep potentially dangerous nuclear material out of the hands of terrorists.”
The haul included a “huge range” of radioactive items used for medical and industrial purposes, said Bryan Wilkes, a spokesman for the Energy Department’s National Nuclear Security Administration.
Much of the material “was in powdered form, which is easily dispersed,” said Wilkes.
The statement provided only scant details about the material taken from Iraq, but said it included “roughly 1,000 highly radioactive sources” that “could potentially be used in a radiological dispersal device,” or dirty bomb.
Wilkes said “a huge range of different isotopes” were secured in the joint Energy Department and Defense Department operation. They had been used in Iraq for a range of medical and industrial purposes, such as testing oil wells and pipelines.
Uranium is not suitable for making a dirty bomb. But some of the other radioactive material — including cesium-137, colbalt-60 and strontium — could have been valuable to a terrorist seeking to fashion a terror weapon.
Such a device would not trigger a nuclear explosion, but would use conventional explosives to spread radioactive debris. While few people would probably be killed or seriously affected by the radiation, such an explosion could cause panic, make a section of a city uninhabitable for some time and require cumbersome and expensive cleanup.
The low-enriched uranium taken from Iraq, if it is of the 3 percent to 5 percent level of enrichment common in fuel for commercial power reactors, could have been of value to a country developing enrichment technology.
“It speeds up the process,” Oelrich said, adding that 1.95 tons of low-enriched uranium could be used to produce enough highly enriched uranium to make a single nuclear bomb. www.armytimes.com...
as mentioned by JTL
Also, the Poles found canisters of Sarin gas with MADE IN USA stamps on them. Sorry, if Saddam was making WMD's he wouldn't put MADE IN USA on them.
Originally posted by James the LesserAlso, the Poles found canisters of Sarin gas with MADE IN USA stamps on them. Sorry, if Saddam was making WMD's he wouldn't put MADE IN USA on them.
Originally posted by x_y_no
This enriched uranium isn't anything new. It isn't anything we didn't know about since well before Gulf War 1.
This material was under UN supervision and monitoring. It wasn't being hidden by Saddam by any stretch of the imagination.
It was only after we invaded, and then failed to secure this facility which we knew all about, that looters stole the stuff. So as justification for invasion, this seems like a piss-poor excuse to me.
The Washington Post
Copyright 2004, The Washington Post Co. All Rights Reserved
Wednesday, July 7, 2004
U.S. Removed Radioactive Materials From Iraq Facility
Washington Post Staff Writer
Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham announced yesterday that almost two tons of low-enriched uranium and about 1,000 radioactive samples used for research had been removed from Iraq's Tuwaitha Nuclear Center and brought to the United States for security reasons. The airlift of the radioactive materials was completed June 23, Abraham said in a statement, "to keep potentially dangerous nuclear materials out of the hands of terrorists." Less sensitive radiological materials -- used for medical, agricultural or industrial purposes -- were left in Iraq, according to a Department of Energy statement.
The International Atomic Energy Agency, which in the prewar period had kept the Tuwaitha uranium under seal, was told in advance of the U.S. removal, as were Iraqi officials.
Tuwaitha was once the center of Saddam Hussein's nuclear weapons effort, but its equipment was dismantled at the direction of U.N. inspectors in the early 1990s as part of the agreement following Iraq's surrender in the 1991 Persian Gulf War. The U.N. inspectors removed highly enriched uranium that could be used for weapons and shipped it for storage in Russia. The low-enriched uranium was placed under seal in storage at Tuwaitha but under the control of the IAEA.
Before the U.S.-led coalition's invasion of Iraq, as the Bush administration alleged that Hussein had reconstituted his nuclear program, Tuwaitha was a target for U.S. intelligence.
In April 2003, just days after the statue of Hussein in Baghdad was pulled down, a U.S. Marine engineering company took a close look at Tuwaitha, which is 30 miles south of Baghdad. There they found guards had abandoned their posts and looters were roaming the giant facility. At one storage building, which later was found to hold radioactive samples used in research, the radiation levels were too high to enter safely, although the entrance door stood wide open.
A month later, the Pentagon rejected suggestions that U.N. inspectors be allowed to reenter Iraq but agreed the IAEA experts could return to secure the uranium that had been under its seal for years.