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still think chemtrails are not real?

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posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 01:59 PM
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What is this, tag team?
Here, I have a video for you. Now, I fully expect you to criticize the source, or the organization, or something else about it without any basis for your opinion, so don't let me down!





posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 02:06 PM
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i watched this video and there is very little they can say to debunk it ! but i know they will type some long paragraph acting like they can lmao !



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 02:19 PM
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Watch the documentary referenced in the post I originally replied to.

There is an interview with the same person interviewed in the video you posted where there's this overwrought, tear jerking sequence where she walks on her property looking at a couple dead trees. She's going on about how they're spraying aluminum all over her lawn and that the trees are absorbing it through the groundwater evidenced by their tuning a silvery-grey. This is interspersed with pictures of west coast conifer forests devastated by pine beetles (!?).

First of all, if this was the result of spraying, wouldn't the trees die off in a pretty uniform pattern, not just a few, here and there? Wouldn't other flora also be affected to the same extent?

Second, where is the intellectual merit in interpreting the colour of a dead tree as evidence of the presence of aluminum poisoning? how much Aluminum would it take to change the colour of the bark of a tree? Do trees metabolize aluminum in this way AT ALL?

What is the deal with showing us pictures of an entirely different phenomenon in support of her argument?

If I'm ever sold on the chemtrail crap, it'll have to come from a better source than that, sorry.
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posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by gateway30
reply to post by Stewie
 


i watched this video and there is very little they can say to debunk it ! but i know they will type some long paragraph acting like they can lmao !


She has no evidence for any of it..Nothing to debunk actually.



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 03:02 PM
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Yeah but... She can drive a Caterpillar, so........



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 03:28 PM
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Ha. Hahahaha. Oh wow, i can't believe this isn't common knowledge. As people continue to watch YouTube, play video games, and post on forums, their government(s) are trying to kill them. Thanks for the link, can't wait to show this to some of my more skeptical friends.



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 03:30 PM
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Why are you making this so easy? One question what does she know about the science of chemtrails, because her field of expertise would come in handy if I lose my crops.


Rosalind Peterson of California Skywatch was a certified U.S.D.A. Farm Service Agency Crop Loss Adjustor working in more than ten counties throughout California.


So how do you go from a certified U.S.D.A. Farm Service Agency Crop Loss Adjustor to an expert on on chemtrails?

Last thing here. This should have made you wonder how true this is when it comes from Prison Planet which is the wonderful site of a one Alex Jones. Oh well to each his own.



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 03:36 PM
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wow, thanks for the website, interesting on what was brought forward.



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 03:36 PM
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Criticizing the source....I knew you wouldn't let me down.
"Chemtrail expert" is a peculiar term coming from you, since that would imply chemtrail existence. But, i will let it go if you promise not to let it happen again.




posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 03:45 PM
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You realize there's isn't necessarily a scientific curriculum involved in Loss Adjusting, right?

Self definition from the Chartered Institute Of Loss Adjusters:

"Loss adjusters are experts in many fields. In addition to a thorough knowledge of insurance and of the area in which they work, they can advise both the insurance company and the policyholder on repair and replacement techniques. After discussions with the policyholder, the loss adjuster's report to the insurance company enables the company to process the claim without delay. Each loss adjuster may work for many insurance companies. These companies know they can rely on the skill and impartiality of the loss adjuster."

*Snip* INSURANCE, DUDES!

See, If it was me making these claims, I'd be flashing my science credentials, not background as a farm hand, insurance practice certificate and caterpillar driving license.
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posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 03:54 PM
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That is absolutely right. Now if your crop is a loss, then yes she would be who I would call. As for chemtrails go that would be a very big never. Hard to believe much of what comes from Alex Jones and prison planet.



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by Stewie
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Criticizing the source....I knew you wouldn't let me down.


You say that like it's the wrong thing to do.

I have made several birdhouses in shop class involving drill presses and have been given head more than a few times. l assure you, trepanation is the most effective measure you can take against your abyssal lack of common sense. Go on and drill away, son!

NOW DON'T YOU GO BOTHERING QUESTIONING THE SOURCE


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posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by 1IN7MILLION
Umm I thought chemtrails were fact...weird all you have to do is look up.


You must be right. You look up and see an aircraft up very high where it's very, very cold with stuff that looks for all the world like frozen water vapor coming out of turbine engines, that as a normal byproduct of the combustion of hydrocarbons with atmospheric oxygen produce water vapor. I'd say it's time for an application of Occam's razor.



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 04:22 PM
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This was the best proof for me...



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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Yes, I still think chemtrails are not real.

This was debunked almost 10 years ago, but I know it's new to you.

Alot of the info is lost now, but I was able to dig some things up. I'm sure somebody else has posted this as well, but things can get lost in forums.

Kucinich, Chemtrails and HR 2977

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Snopes

Also, why was the bill rewritten to exclude all the exotic weapons, not limited to chemtrails?



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 04:27 PM
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Okay, I have some time to kill...let's talk.
Is it your position that there is absolutely no large scale spraying going on? And if there IS some spraying going on, what would you say it is limited to?
Lastly, do you think it is possible that spraying could be going on that you are not aware of?
This should be interesting. Really.



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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First thing you are funny




Criticizing the source....I knew you wouldn't let me down. "Chemtrail expert" is a peculiar term coming from you, since that would imply chemtrail existence. But, i will let it go if you promise not to let it happen again.


Expert;

ex·pert   /n., v. ˈɛkspɜrt; adj. ˈɛkspɜrt, ɪkˈspɜrt/ Show Spelled [n., v. ek-spurt; adj. ek-spurt, ik-spurt] Show IPA –noun 1. a person who has special skill or knowledge in some particular field; specialist; authority: a language expert


dictionary.reference.com...

You would think my comment implies that, wouldn't you? Good thought, but wrong...Keep trying eventually you will find the truth you seek.
Now about the source which was Prison Planet tv, and we all know who owns it is none other than Alex Jones. I guess that is your right to believe whatever you want. I will not hold it against you..



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 04:33 PM
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That's evidence of cloudseeding, bro.
We've known about this for a long time now.

Chemtrails suggests something FAR, more sinister and insidious.
The end of your vid hints that this practice has evolved from something dangerous, though I bet it's well documented chemical warfare.



posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 04:35 PM
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Try to keep it real.
I know what an expert is, but chemtrail experts are hard to find...I admit.
But, heck, one day I might be one! I can add it to my resume. Beats contrail expert, which by the way, I see very few here.
but, this is fun...don't want to spoil the fun!




posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 04:40 PM
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Stewie, all you need to do to answer these questions is to think for yourself.
Don't believe stuff that comes out of a mouth just because you think it's pretty or because it's in line with what you want to believe right now. Separate yourself from what you want to be true and what you know is true.

Altough it does help, you don't need a vast amount of life experience to figure out this chemtrails stuff doesn't line up.

Try not to believe in anything, strive to know.
Per example, we KNOW what this chick in the videos you posted has to say. How does it sit with the rest of what you also KNOW?

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