Have Nuclear Weapons Testing Made The Hole In The Ozone Layer Or Should We Blame The Cows.

I have always wondered what kind of affect a large explosion has on the atmosphere and the ozone layer, I am not a scientist but am interested in science etc... There have obviously been the atomic explosions in japan back in 1945 but there have been hundreds of test explosions throughout the world since.
I have read that human consumption only counts for 2 per cent of damage to the ozone layer, but these stats never include nuclear explosions.
I have also read that cows make a lot of methane, and that is way more damaging to the ozone layer than co2 but i am not willing to stop eating beef any time soon as it is much tastier than the methane free kangaroo.

If anyone with knowledge of this subject can comment i would be much appreciated.

reply to post by lewman


i told my parents the same thing and they laughed liked they are some kind of scientist that knows it didn't about 4 years ago. I laughed and said yeah its cans of hairspray and smog from cars lol not a big ass fire ball of death and radiation then they agreed with me that it might be the result of nuke tests above ground. But the government doesn't want people to blame them so they make up crap sadly it always makes them more money by putting restrictions on "environmental hazards" which i swear they must be mocking us to our faces. really cows and car smog and hair spray lol. These are the same people raising the rates on your heating and cooling bill every summer and winter raising the gas prices every summer and not putting limits on rent control to the market gets so over priced no one can pay to live in a 1 bedroom apartment without having 2 jobs.

According to the New Zealand’ National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWAR), the Antarctic ozone hole is currently at it's smallest in 5 years. So I guess the worst of the ozone depletion may now be behind us.

The ozone hole over Antarctica has shrunk to the smallest in five years, according to a New Zealand’ National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research, NIWAR.

Source: NIWAR

it really puzzles me how it can grow and shrink so much, also the strange thing is that farming cows etc... creates methane but if i was to become vegetarian then i would fart more as i seem to when i eat things like sprouts,carrots, broccoli etc.... i suppose i could live of potatoes and rice but that doesnt sound like much fun when my neighbours having a bbq.

**Everything you wanted to know about the ozone layer but was too confused to ask**

www.theozonehole.com...

In the normal state of affairs the creation and dissociation processes run in balance and a typical value for the total amount of ozone in a vertical column of our atmosphere is around 300 Dobson Units (DU), or 300 milli-atmosphere-centimetres, which corresponds to a layer of ozone 3 mm thick at the Earth's surface. This 3 mm is in reality spread through the column, with the bulk of it lying between the tropopause, at 10 to 12 km altitude, and 40 km, with a maximum at around 17 to 25 km altitude depending on location. This is the ozone layer.

Now as far as the nukes are concerned, I've always associated the damage being done is to the "Van Allen Belts"

www.newworldencyclopedia.org...

There have been nuclear tests in space that have caused artificial radiation belts. Starfish Prime, a high altitude nuclear test, created an artificial radiation belt that damaged or destroyed as many as one third of the satellites in low earth orbit at the time.

Also the corelation of nokes and the Belts was a topic here-

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by geo1066


thanks for the links, found this part quite helpful as it answered my second question but i understand the first will be a lot more difficult to research-




"Why does the ozone hole form over Antarctica ? The answer is essentially 'because of the weather in the ozone layer'. In order for rapid ozone destruction to happen, clouds (known as PSCs, Stratospheric Clouds Mother of Pearl or Nacreous Clouds) have to form in the ozone layer. In these clouds surface chemistry takes place. This converts chlorine or bromine (from CFCs and other ozone depleting chemicals) into an active form, so that when there is sunlight, ozone is rapidly destroyed. Without the clouds, there is little or no ozone destruction. Only during the Antarctic winter does the atmosphere get cold enough for these clouds to form widely through the centre of the ozone layer. Elsewhere the atmosphere is just too warm and no clouds form. The northern and southern hemispheres have different 'weather' in the ozone layer, and the net result is that the temperature of the Arctic ozone layer during winter is normally some ten degrees warmer than that of the Antarctic. This means that such clouds are rare, but sometimes the 'weather' is colder than normal and they do form. Under these circumstances significant ozone depletion can take place over the Arctic, but it is usually for a much shorter period of time and covers a smaller area than in the Antarctic."

reply to post by lewman


try these ATS topics for your first question-

www.abovetopsecret.com... ch#1025

Don't know if it will get you through- if not, on the"SEARCH" page put-

solar flares
nuclear
atomic

in your options. OR...

ozone layer
nuclear
atomic

Man, I love this site!!

Every space launch causes a huge hole in the ozone layer. Just the rocket exhaust is to blame. Rocket exhaust has contaminated 10% of the moon's atmosphere.

reply to post by earthdude


great, we are now starting to commercialise space flights and the indians are blowing up rockets.
i doubt this smallest ozone layer in 5 years will last very long.

The Ozone layer is recovering a bit more every year almost. Apparently the actions taken to to make cfk's disappear from our products and industrial uses are working. The latest guess was that the hole would be a memory half way this century.

There have been 2053 atmospheric nuclear tests . They didn't cause the hole in the ozone layer but I bet they are responsible for a part of the cancer victims we no today.

See here for more data and a nice animation about the nuclear question.Nukes,nukes and mor nukes

Try this one for a lot off ozone layer info.Our Ozone layer... What is really causing that hole ?

You are welcome.

I believe the answer is yes. I cannot be sure because we did not know about the 'hole' and were not able to measure such a thing before nuclear testing, but deep inside it makes sense to me. I remember reading that at the time of the first bomb test there were scientists who warned that we could burn off our atmosphere. It blows my mind that the long term or even immediate consequences were not know and yet they proceeded. Shouldn't we the citizens of the planet have had a say or choice??

Here is an article I found, I was considering a thread on this topic and I found yours . www.newscientist.com...

I could be wrong, but it seems there has to be science of previous ozone damage from nuclear bombs for this study to have taken place, and the magic 40% number to have been calculated.

Hundreds of tests took place over a number of years, do we have the governments of first world countries to blame for the problems we face today with solar radiation?