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Spacecraft Saw ULF Radio Emissions over Haiti before January Quake

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posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 07:34 AM
A French satellite observed a dramatic increase in ultra low frequency radio waves over Haiti in the month before the M7.0 earthquake earlier this year.

But these effects occur over vast distances and at frequencies that are hard to measure and difficult to separate from background noise. Which is why DEMETER was launched , (DEMETER stands for Detection of Electro-Magnetic Emissions Transmitted from Earthquake Regions).

Now Michael Athanasiou at the Technical University of Serres in Greece and a few buddies say that DEMETER spotted good of evidence of a change in ultralow frequency radio waves in the ionosphere above Haiti in the run up to the quake. "The results reveal a significant increase of the energy of ULF waves, up to 360%, for a period of one month before the main earthquake compared with the energy of the background," they say. That's a dramatic increase. These emissions dropped gradually in the month after the quake.

Link to Article

Does anyone think that this could be related to HAARP? If so why, and if not, why?

posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 07:42 AM
ULF = Ultra Low Frequency

HAARP = High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program

Ultra low frequency

Some monitoring stations have reported that earthquakes are sometimes preceded by a spike in ULF activity. A remarkable example of this occurred before the Loma Prieta Earthquake in California in 1989.[citation needed] Researchers are attempting to learn more about this correlation to find out whether this method can be used as part of an early warning system for earthquakes.

Scientists debate new evidence for electromagnetic earthquake predictors

Enticed with tantalizing but inconclusive evidence, researchers have searched since 1982 for a signal to predict earthquakes. They have monitored extra-low frequency (ELF) and very-low frequency (VLF) radio waves from satellites and from the ground.

New findings suggest researchers may find what they seek at even lower frequencies, said Antony Fraser-Smith, an electrical engineer at Stanford University's Space, Telecommunications and Radioscience (STAR) Laboratory.

In 1989, in the days before the Loma Prieta earthquake, Fraser-Smith detected huge radio signals in the ultra-low frequency (ULF) range, 0.01 to 10 hertz, with an instrument placed 7 kilometers from the epicenter.

Scientists from five countries subsequently presented data at the recent meeting of the American Geophysical Union (AGU) in San Francisco that support a connection between ULF radio signals and earthquakes above magnitude 5.0.

How many people who try to connect HAARP to anything electromagnetic in origin actually do any research on the matter?

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posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 07:57 AM
reply to post by Ferris.Bueller.II

Here's some other information besides just the acronym. Taken from: HAARP Wiki

Some of the main scientific findings from HAARP include:
1. Generation of very low frequency radio waves by modulated heating of the auroral electrojet, useful because generating VLF waves ordinarily requires gigantic antennas
2. Production of weak luminous glow (below what you can see with your eye, but measurable) from absorption of HAARP's signal
3. Production of extremely low frequency waves in the 0.1 Hz range, which are next to impossible to produce any other way
4. Generation of whistler-mode VLF signals which enter the magnetosphere, and propagate to the other hemisphere, interacting with Van Allen radiation belt particles along the way
5. VLF remote sensing of the heated ionosphere

Research at the HAARP includes:
1. Ionospheric heating
2. plasma line observations
3. Stimulated electron emission observations
4. Gyro frequency heating research
5. Spread F observations
6. Airglow observations
7. Heating induced scintillation observations
8. VLF and ELF generation observations [5]
9. Radio observations of meteors
10. Polar mesospheric summer echoes: PMSE have been studied using the IRI as a powerful radar, as well as with the 28 MHz radar, and the two VHF radars at 49 MHz and 139 MHz. The presence of multiple radars spanning both HF and VHF bands allows scientists to make comparative measurements that may someday lead to an understanding of the processes that form these elusive phenomena.
11. Research on extraterrestrial HF radar echos: the Lunar Echo experiment (2008).[6][7]
12. Testing of Spread Spectrum Transmitters (2009)
13. Meteor shower impacts on the ionosphere
14. Response and recovery of the ionosphere from solar flares and geomagnetic storms
15. The effect of ionospheric disturbances on GPS satellite signal quality

It looks like the installation is perfectly capable of creating the wavelengths in the OP.

posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 08:05 AM
reply to post by cerberus00

And here's another.

The Loma Prieta earthquake happened in 1989, yet when was HAARP built?

High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program

Work on the HAARP Station began in 1993. The current working IRI was completed in 2007, and its prime contractor was BAE Advanced Technologies.

Here's an even better question. Is HAARP capable of transmitting radio frequency energy through time, and did it cause the Loma Prieta earthquake?

posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 08:24 AM
haarp was around in the 70's...russia had the lead
we still have less power officially, but outrun all others in out-of-this-world tech weapons

posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 08:46 AM
reply to post by GBP/JPY

Credible links, please?

posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 10:37 AM
If we are going to buy into the HAARP theory, then please include the other countries who also have similar programs - namely China. Check the Conspiracy theory behind hurricane Katrina and Chinese involvement, and the result since then.

The US is on year 5 for "lucking out" of being hit by a hurricane. There seems to be some type of concstant high pressure system near the gulf of mexico entrance.

posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 12:01 PM
I'm not entirely sure what I think about what our HAARPs are used for in the US (I think the one in Puerto Rico is more powerful than Alaska's?), but I do believe those built in Europe are strong enough to do much more than we are aware of. Here is a link from a couple of years ago saying that one of our (US) other HAARPs caused the Peru 8.0 in June of 2005. There are a lot of articles to be found of other countries accusing us of using it to alter the weather for military or economic reasons.

Some people try to connect the "earthquake lights" phenomena to HAARP, and I wonder if that is true. There are some videos of aurora-like lights above China just before that quake, and a video of a woman saying she saw weird lights in the sky before the Chile quake. Whether it's caused by HAARP or another country's similar facility, I don't know.

It interests me though because EISCAT can for sure create visible aurora emissions, even in a spiral form (like the Norway spiral perhaps) so it would make sense to me that the power needed to create a quake would somehow effect the aurora or even create an aurora.

EISCAT's heater link

Links related to ionospheric heating generating/altering aurora:
Harvard Spiral Document
Nature Journal Article on Plasma Aurora & Radio Waves
Artificial Airglow

There's also a History channel program that was done that demonstrates just how HAARP could create an earthquake with the right amount of power. It's demonstrated on a small scale, I'll try to find the link.
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posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 12:09 PM
Interesting responses. So have we then ascertained that HAARP is capable of producing the low frequency radio waves that were over Haiti, despite having a name acronym standing for "high frequency"?

Regarding colors in the sky before quakes, those are caused by the radio waves, I believe that's proven. If there are radio frequencies in the ionosphere before natural earthquakes, maybe those frequencies are created inside the earth, and actually cause the earthquakes ... if that's true, then HAARP could reproduce similar frequencies and perhaps trigger an earthquake? I'm thinking something along the lines of resonant frequency, maybe something regarding Schuman resonance?

posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 12:27 PM
Here's the link to the History channel program, the whole thing was pretty good, but this is the part that talks about quakes and ELF waves vibrating the earth.

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posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 12:44 PM
reply to post by Ferris.Bueller.II

Russia started using ELF waves first in 1975. I'll try to find a credible link. They are referred to as the woodpecker waves. They really messed up radio communications. Here's a video with the original woodpecker sound that coined the name. The place hasn't been used since the Chernobyl incident.

The US started researching into weather modification, or at least into ELF waves, in 1958.

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posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 01:35 PM
Here's a link to when ULF waves and earthquakes were starting to be studied more, discusses how human activity can create a "background noise" around the earth generated ULF waves, especially during the daytime.
Stanford News from 1991

I wonder if the machines/satellites set up to monitor ULF/ELF waves could tell the difference between something genuinely generated by the earth and something potentially generated by HAARP and similar places.

And here's something mentioning the Schumann Resonance, this person thinks the frequency HAARP uses may be 0.9 Hz, the Alfven Resonance.

4. -- THE MYSTERIOUS 0.9 Hz ALFVEN RESONANCE Since the early days of radio, in the age of Nikolai Tesla, it has been known the earth has a natural electromagnetic resonance. If a radio signal is sent out from point A it will then travel around to the opposite side of the planet, the antipode at point B, and then continue to travel around back to point A. If a new signal is sent at the same time the first signal arrives back, then the two will add together and seem to resonate constructively.

To calculate that resonant frequency is simple. Take the speed of the radio waves (speed of light), and divide by the distance traveled (circumference of the earth). Then 186,000 mi/s divided by 24,000 mi results in 7.75 /s or about 8 Hz. This is called the first Schumann Resonance of the earth. It is assumed radio static from large lightning discharges follow this pattern and can be heard on a ULF radio receiver as overlapping random ringing damped waves at 8 Hz.

If you take your receiver and tune below the Schumann Resonance down to about 0.9 or 1 Hz you will hear static from yet another resonant source. The cause of this Alfven Resonance is a complete mystery. It would imply there is some other path radio waves can follow which has a round trip path 8 times the size of the earth. Or it may mean there is a medium through which the radio waves travel which is 8 times slower than the speed of light. It might mean a combination of the two. It can only be a change in the speed of light or a longer distance traveled. As yet no one knows.

When radio waves or light rays travel through water or glass they are slowed down to about 3/4 the speed of light. This accounts for the bending of light at air/water interfaces or by prisms. If radio waves travel through ionized gas they also are slowed down depending on the "plasma frequency" which is a function of the temperature, density and the species of ions which make up the plasma. If radio waves travel through the rocks of the earth they too are slowed down depending on the density and make-up of the rock. As a result there are primarily three schools of thought about the source of the Alfven Resonance. These are: (1) magnetospheric, (2) ionospheric and (3) lithospheric interactions with radio waves.

Many of the members of the Elfrad group would fit into the third lithospheric group. The theory is, stresses in deep rocks in the lithoshpere created by seismic or magmatic activity can cause piezo-electric signals which radiate from the source, but due to some resonance of the rock and the distance between the crust and mantle, the signals are strongest at the resonance point which might be the Alfven Frequency. As a result the Alfven Resonance may not be due to radio waves in the air, but is actually coming from the earth due to random seismic activity around the planet. This area of study has been pursued for over 20 years, as yet, there are many indications but no clear proof has come forth.

The second line of thought, ionospheric Alfven waves, has many supporters and researchers with large grants for research. Among these are teams at HAARP, along with European and Russian researchers, possibly using the EISCAT and SURA ionospheric heater facilities. The basic concept here is somehow waves travel through the thin plasma between the top of the ionosphere, the F layer, and below the magnetosphere several thousand miles above the surface, and at a speed much slower than the speed of light. There are some problems with this theory, one being, what is the source of the waves and how did they get there. But there are a number of researchers who just in the last 2 years feel they are right on the edge of proving maser-like interactions in layers of ions below the magnetosphere are the source of the Alfven Resonance.

The third group, Magnetospheric Alfven waves, seems to have few proponents, or they have not yet published or I simply haven't read their papers. But there is the possibility waves can travel through the plasma of the magnetosphere itself and just as the electrons are bounced back and forth from north to south magnetic pole, they may be grouped in bunches such that their density rises and falls at a 1 Hz rate. This would of course need to be along the longest path of the magnetosphere, which is along the orbit of earth. The magnetosphere in the direction of the sun is compressed by the solar wind bow shock and would be a shorter path. And the magnetosphere path away from the sun is discontinuous since it forms a long conical tail also shaped by the solar wind.

The magnetospheric tail itself, may in fact be a source of another theory for magnetospheric Alfven waves. If a thunderstorm produces those strange red and blue sprites and elves, the rising plasma jets from these phenomena may radiate electromagnetic waves upward in the direction of the magnetic tail. Under certain solar wind conditions the shape of the magnetic tail may act as a corner reflector and send the radio waves right back to the very thunderstorm which created them, which would then trigger another sprite or elf which then radiates back to the magnetic tail and ... well, possibly an electromagnetic radiation path with a total path length about 8 times the circumference of the earth resonating as long as the thunderstorm is active, with a resonant frequency of 0.9 to 1 Hz.

What this shows is, there is a tight horse race among many researchers all looking in different places for the source of the mysterious Alfven Resonance at 0.9 Hz. It would seem the lithospheric group is being left out in the cold, while most of the grant money is going to the ionospheric group. Among the grantors of science funding, those people who build radios and then strangely bury their antennas in the ground are often viewed as being like those hardy folk who eat dirt and drink motor oil for breakfast. Thus most of the grant money goes to places like HAARP.

This also points out the reason for the extreme mystery and secrecy surrounding the projects at HAARP. If you want to find out what is happening at HAARP the only place you might find out is during a cocktail party after an international geophysical conference. Even then if you are lucky enough to collar a researcher, he will only give you a wink and a nod, and that's about it. Why? Well, he doesn't want his competitors and fellow researchers to know what he's doing. He wants to collect his data, write his paper, be first to get into the Journal of Geophysical Research, and then proudly stake his claim as the discoverer of the source of the Alfven Resonance. All that creates an aura of academic secrecy around the HAARP activities which is even tighter than a place like, say, Los Alamos Labs.

With an environment of such high secrecy, the public is inclined to believe all manner of secret military activities such as, futuristic weapons, weather and mind control projects along with possibly communication with ETs, are all occurring at HAARP. When in fact, most of the secrecy is due to normal academic behavior when a scientific breakthrough is about to occur. But then again, a prime reason for all the secrecy at HAARP is...the US Navy.

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posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 03:03 PM
This has been recorded before, and it's actually a very good indicator of when an earthquake will occur... in fact they're trying to build a device to better predict earthquakes...

posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 04:45 PM

Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II
ULF = Ultra Low Frequency

HAARP = High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program

Ultra low frequency

The HAARP system has been modified to modulate the High Frequency signal to produce ELF/VLF waves. It would be reasonable to assume that since 1998 they have been able to produce ULF waves as well. Below is just one example with source.

A.3 Arecibo, HIPAS, and HAARP ELF/VLF Experiments

The high power HF ionospheric heating facilities at the Arecibo, HIPAS, and HAARP Observatories

have been used in a number of campaigns to modulate ionospheric current systemsw at

ELF/VLF frequencies in order to produce ELF/VLF waves. At Arecibo, the equatorial dynamo

current was modulated and ELF/VLF waves were produced over the frequency range of 500 Hz

to 5 kHz using a heater frequency of approximately 3 MHz and a total HF input power of 800

kW, with an ERP of 160 - 320 MW [Ferraro et al., 1982]. There was also evidence that the

HF heater sometimes created ducts along which VLF signals could propagate into the conjugate

ionosphere [ it M. Starks, 2000].

At HIPAS, the HF heater was used to create ELF/VLF waves through three different modulation

techniques, amplitude modulation, phase modulation, and beat-frequency modulation

[Wong et al.,1995]. Amplitude modulation appeared to be generally the most efficient. The

generation of ELF/VLF waves at HIPAS was most successful when the electrojet was overhead,

when there was low D region absorption, and when energetic particle precipitation and visible

aurora were not overhead [Wong et al.,1996]. Enhancement of the ELF/VLF wave amplitude

could sometimes be achieved by pointing the HF beam in a direction other than vertical, leading

to the conclusion that ELF/VLF wave production is optimized when the HF beam has is pointed

toward the electrojet position [Garnier et al., 1998]. Arecibo, HIPAS, and HAARP ELF/VLF Experiments
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posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 06:29 PM
reply to post by clay2 baraka

Nice find. I've never seen that before, most of my links are pretty old, and I try to save all that I find in relation to this. Very informative, especially this part on Norway's facility.

6) The amplitude of the ELF waves was essentially independent of the ERP of the HF signal, but depended only on the total HF power delivered to the ionosphere. 7) The ratio of heating to cooling time constants ranged from 1 at 510 Hz to 0.3 at 6 kHz. The Tromsø facility was also used to excite ULF waves in the 1.67 - 700 mHz frequency range

And this.

No wave-injection experiments were carried out in the lower ELF and ULF range using the Siple Station, Antarctica, transmitter, since the Siple transmitter was not usable at frequencies below about 1.2 kHz. However, there have been other attempts at generating ULF waves.

For example, the U. S. Navy VLF transmitter at Cutler, Maine, was square wave modulated at frequencies of 0.2, 1, and 5 Hz over the course of one month [Willis and Davis, 1976]. Micropulsations occurred on a number of occasions at harmonics of the transmitter modulation frequency. These events all occurred in the quieting period following geomagnetically active days. In addition, as mentioned above, The Tromsø facility has been used to excite ULF waves in the Pc 5 frequency range [Stubbe and Kopka, 1981.

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posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 09:04 PM

Originally posted by Xcathdra
If we are going to buy into the HAARP theory, then please include the other countries who also have similar programs - namely China. Check the Conspiracy theory behind hurricane Katrina and Chinese involvement, and the result since then.

The US is on year 5 for "lucking out" of being hit by a hurricane. There seems to be some type of concstant high pressure system near the gulf of mexico entrance.

So, HAARP is responsible if natural phenomenon like hurricanes and earthquakes do occur, and also gets the credit if natural phenomenon doesn't occur? Wow!

posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 10:33 PM
reply to post by Ferris.Bueller.II

The conspiracy theory I refered to was in reference to hurricane katrina. The trcking of the hurricane shows some very unusual turns made by the hurricane, that essentuially created a perfect storm in terms of where it hit. The theory goes on to state it was caused by china, who used their version of haarp to manipulate the storm to create the perfect storm.

Since Katrina, and the one hurricane that made landfall on the US shortly after it, the US has gone 5 years now with no hurricanes making landfall. This has been looked at, with an unusual high pressure, stationary, located near the gulf of mexico near Florida. The "high pressure" acts as a buffer, forcing weather either sotuh, near cuba and mexico, or back out into the atlantic.

I am not saying it can cause the storm itself, but can manipulate the storm according to the theory. The high pressure build up near the gulf is a result, supposedly, of our haarp program, put in place to ensure safety from dangerous weather pattners heading towards the us, but manipulatable enough to allow normal weather, rain thunderstorms etc etc.

As I said, conspiracy theory, so take what ya want from it.

As I said, its a conspiracy theory, so its hard to prove. I added it as part of the post since it dealt with haarp, attemnpting to show its been tagged to more than just earthquakes.
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posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 11:47 PM
reply to post by Ferris.Bueller.II

Btw, I live in Santa Clara CA and was in that quake first hand. I did not see any colors or anything in the sky before, during, or after that quake. I remember it vividly since that was the craziest earthquake I had ever felt. The ground literally looked like a ripple in water.

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