Lending more money to students isnt going to work politically or economically, why?
At the moment we lend students around 10 000 to 16 000 pounds to go to uni but thats going to go up to a possible 40 000 pounds.
What does that mean?
Yesterday I was talking to a friend of mine that just finished his degree (a year ago) ; he is very against the tuition fees going up for the next
generation of young school leavers.
However he did say: "I dont mind paying mine back for the rest of my life 'cos uni was the best days of my life, and Ill always remember them'.
This friend of mine is working for a chain supermarket and moving up the ranks quite well, something that he clearly could have done
without a degree: and we actually know this for a fact, because his friend that lives up north started working at the same supermarket after his A
levels (at 18) with no degree and is already one step further up the chain of command than my friend who worked there during his degree part time and
for nearly a year since.
What am I getting at? When young people are told to go to uni because 'they need to'; 'to be able to earn more' but are then given loans to do so,
their reaction is like my friends' (most of them actually): to go wild; party hard, not go to uni (ie skive off) drink, binge drink, smoke, and take
In other words: 'If im going to be paying for this for the rest of my life then Im going to have a bloody good time while Im here'.
Unfortunately skiving, taking drugs and having fun at raves doesn't always lend towards good graduation results!!
Instead, what you do find, is people quitting at the end of their first year, and then (maybe) trying again a
year later (thats 2 loans: at the moment 6000 pounds in the near future up to a staggering 18000)
If you are shouting NO this would never happen! then let me tell you: I have a friend who is 28
and has failed the first year 3 times! He has a large amount of debt and is currently unemployed, because he loved dj'ing drum and bass and partying a
bit too much. When he was young he was a member of mensa with a huge IQ, he had a great upbringing and really should have been the type of young
person to succeed in his choice of engineering.
Unfortunately everytime he went back to uni the loan came and the partying started.
If I know a number of people who did this; in my relatively small friendship group. How many must be doing this country wide??
OK so I hear you say: his fault, he was lazy: so to hell with him and the rest of them.
Hmmmm, Ok, but what about his debt?
He's not planning to get a job in a hurry: he's become so depressed and apathetic because he's got lots of debt but no degree, and as a result he is
most likely not going to pay his back, specially as its going up exponentially while he doesnt pay it, and hes a smoker and so likely to die young
having not payed it all [or any] off: He is already nearly 30 and he hasnt had many jobs! Really not many!! So whats going to change?
Maybe he will turn it all around and get an NVQ2 and get a reasonable job as a trades man (something he should have perhaps been encouraged to do in
the first place) and start paying it back: and maybe he'll live to be 90 and the cancer won't come who knows? heres hoping.
So what of students that do less classic subjects like drama, film, surf science, etc etc etc (there are so many).
By raising the amount of 18 year old school leavers that wanted and could get a place at uni to near 50% during their time in power New Labour basked
in the s**tshine of their success saying wow look what weve done!!! Everyones getting a higher education even the lower middle classes!! WOW. WELL
DONE. Now the job market in the UK is saturated with graduates with Desmonds (2:2's) in senseless degrees who cant get a gradute job and end up
working their way up in a job they could have got without a degree. like my first friend I mentioned.
So, if a large amount of graduates are coming out of uni in almost exactly the same position that they went in, only with huge amounts of debt this
clearly shows that the goverment got it WRONG.
Solution: raise tuition fees?
Why raise tuition fees?
In some ways the only choice the conservatives have got is to put tuition fees up.
To PUT YOUNG British people OFF going to uni, YES; That is what this is really about.
Half the population of 6th form leavers dont need a degree and the education system is wrong to tell them that they do.
If you put fees up and put kiddies off going to uni, you force them to look for different life avenues. OK then...
Shouldn't tptb be doing this through education????
Isnt the first 18 years of your life long enough for your teachers and parents to spend the time and care getting to know you in order to be able to
advise you well on your choices?
Our government vomited out the idea that we should PUSH PUSH PUSH our kids in to UNI: for what??
Shouldn't the government work harder at helping industry and business to raise the amounts of apprentiships available to record levels?
Shouldn't governments work on changing our schools to better raise, inform and prepare young people to make wise choices when they are 16 and 18
instead of encouraging teachers to throw a UCAS form at them, while they passionately day dream of a nice bottle of Rioja from the supermarket that
the same poor kid will end up in when he gets his worthless degree (after a high education spent getting high: no doubt, because they've got to make
the bloody most of it for that money, dont they?!).
Now the conservatives are slyly forcing a coalition government (of which half of the parties (libdem) were (apparently) completely against) in to
raising tuition fees to unprecedented levels in order to fix the problem: in a (I must add) very naughty and underhand, sly dog, kind of way.
And what does it actually mean?
Well there arent many apprentiships to go round cos there hasn't been a drive to create more 'different' opportunities, and because of the lapse
immigration laws (well done again labour) the disenfranchised (lower classes) youth who decide not to go to uni cos they dont think they'll be able to
handle the debt, also find themselfes in a competitive job market in which the 'lesser' more 'meager' jobs ares still hard to get!!! And the mediumly
rubbish jobs are all being taken up by the saturation of graduates with crazy 2:2's that dont know how to, or even want to use their degrees to try
and get good jobs.
So when young people cant afford houses or to start families, when the middle class graduates spend longer working boring jobs to pay off debts they
shouldnt have bothered getting: You'll find that the population of Britain will get OLDER.
If the young dont have houses or families they wont create more young, and our population will age.
Pensions? No way!! who is going to pay for them!? Young people are OUR COUNTRIES (and yours) future, if our young arent educated and pampered a
little: given a good start in life then the number of them that succeeds in life goes DOWN.
When the amount of young people leading successful lives goes down and our population ages: shtf.
When we lend more and more money to apathetic youngsters who come out with partied degrees: REMEMBER: that money had to come from somewhere!! When
these young people dont get a job and go on benefits, or get jobs below the pay back bracket and dont pay back their loans: shtf.
Mistakes are being made in the UK, the kids know it. Not all the Adults do.
Hope you made it through. thanks for reading.
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Lagrimas because: spelling