Shocking cable: US says Saudi donors are chief financiers of al Qaeda

Shocking cable: US says Saudi donors are chief financiers of al Qaeda

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A quick aside in a New York Times article about leaked diplomatic cables is sure to spark renewed interest about the role of the US' biggest ally in the Gulf supporting terrorism.

In their wide-ranging précis of the leaked cables, Times reporters Scott Shane and Andrew Lehren mention in passing a key detail from one of the diplomatic dispatches: "Saudi donors remain the chief financiers of Sunni militant groups like Al Qaeda."

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The admission is stunning, though it has been largely kept from public view, and hasn't been admitted previously at such a high level. The "Blue Ribbon" Sept. 11, 2001 report noted that al Qaeda had raised money in Saudi Arabia but that no senior officials had provided material support.

Charges that Saudi donors have provided material support for terrorist groups -- including Iraqi insurgents -- are not new. A detailed Congressional Research Service report in 2007 highlighted repeated instances where Saudis were accused of supporting terrorist groups. The report was titled, "Saudi Arabia: Terrorist Financing Issues."

Of course this is something that many of us already knew, though due to certain business interests between Saudi Arabia and many of our own politicians, it has become more convenient to pin the blame on others.

Take for instance the Iraqi insurgents back in the Bush days. While Bush was trying to blame Iran for arming the Shia militias, the bigger problem was Saudi Arabia arming and supplying the Sunni militias, which were the real dangerous threat to US troops.

Yes, while Bush was playing "footsy" with the Saudi Royals and Bin Laden family, our troops were dying from supplies and munitions supplied by Bush friends.

Of course there seems to be a deliberate effort to take the focus off of Saudi Arabia and instead push propaganda on the next enemy or target of US corporate interests.

Of course I'm not holding my breath that this particular cable will reveal too much information on the situation there in Saudi Arabia, though I would love for this issue to come to light.

Certain politicians ties with Saudi Arabia (to include the Bin Laden family), is like a slap in the face, especially when they are taking our freedoms and money in the name of this "war on terror". They probably go to bed at night, saying to themselves, "suckersss, I can't believe we can get away with this."


--airspoon



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Of course this is something that many of us already knew, though due to certain business interests between Saudi Arabia and many of our own politicians, it has become more convenient to pin the blame on others.

Agreed, I am not shocked.

Sucks to be a target in the sights of a terrorist that was financed at the gas pump with your own money.

This is really damning for the US. Whilst it kills innocent people in Afghanistan for no good reason, on the pretext of stamping out Al Qaeda support, it TURNS A BLIND EYE to Saudi financial support for AQ. It totally makes a mockery of their 'war on terrorism', it tears it to shreds, because at the same time as it is alleging a war on terror, it is at the same time COLLUDING with financial support for AQ.

This could conceivably even be considered treasonous, and most definitely a war crime - it's collusion. If they didn't know about it that's one thing, but here's the proof that they did.

IMO this is very, very serious. Yes, we all know they support both sides of an argument, but this is evidence in the full glare of the public. IMO this alone could be enough to bring an government to its knees.

Then there was the plane which allowed the Saudis to leave US on 9/11. This stinks, if you ask me and some people will already be pouring over all this. It could conceivably even link to complicity in 9/11.

The thing with this kind of information is that the ramifications of it and the impact aren't immediately known or even obvious, but I have no doubt that some of the 'white hats' will already be analysing this in depth.

reply to post by butcherguy


Sadly it's not just that we are financing Saudi at the gas pump, they are co-owners/investors in many US corporations that are profitting from this war on terror. They also seem to be very close firends and business partners with certain high-ranking officials and former officials (such as the President, VP and Secretary of State), thus many of the policies and legislation put forward by our government, directly benefits these Saudi entities/people, which in turn ultimately goes in to the hands of the insurgents, who then target US Soldiers and other "terrorist" activity.

What makes this so maddening, is that these same politicians are basically laughing at us as they strip our liberties, labor and income in the name of fighting terror, only to finance it. While they have a good portion of the American people believing that they are actually doing their best to stop terror, they are actually financing it and making a pretty penny from it too. It's a very clear circle, where they are the winners and we are the losers. It's a win-win for them and a lose-lose for us.



--airspoon

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death."
-- Adolf Hitler

"The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened".
-- Josef Stalin

reply to post by airspoon


'spoon.....you've participated in (and originated) quite a few threads about 9/11 "conspiracies".

What does it say, to you, that MANY of the people who "argue" in those sorts of threads will often make the claims that there is no Al Qaeda?? (They get this "information" from the same places they get the rest of the mistaken beliefs RE: 9/11). Intent, there, is to imply that the group was "made up" by the Bush administration, as a "cover" for their "inside job attack on America". It is but one symptom of a factual vacuum.

Seems clear, by the evidence in these (formerly private, and 'secret') cables, that Al Qaeda is indeed real...and seems to therefore diminish many, many of the so-called "theories" that surround 9/11.

Further, it demonstrates that, in fact, the former U.S. administration was intent on getting toeholds and footholds in Afghanistan, and also, Iraq.....in order to "contain" Iran, by proximity.

(Whether the U.S. Government is complicit with the Saudis on this...I think that would be a stretch. Meaning, IF there were some sort of "under the table" co-operation, to give the U.S. 'reason'....I would think it's more likely the Saudis playing both sides against the middle....AND, as also seen they were part of the chorus trying to convince the U.S. to contain Iran, correct? Seems the Saudis are just master manipulators?.....It does, after all, seem to fit in with historical stereotypes, of "royal intrigue", and hegemony machinations...).

The 9/11 attacks were NOT "planned" for that reason, but instead were callously USED, after the fact, to accelerate already existing plans. Of occupying Afghanistan, and Iraq. Yet, the actual source and funding for Al Qaeda operations came from neither of those countries. (Some "safe haven" activities in Afghanistan, provided by the Taliban, were known. But, now the majority of actual money source is confirmed, even if it was already suspected, long ago...)

Does this finally deflate the "inside job" fantasy, and put that to rest? Because, the actual circumstances surrounding the entire Middle East mess are far more convoluted, than the overly simplistic rantings of the "9/11 conspirasists" and their websites, aren't they?

This should be a prime argument for the shift that needs to take place in US Energy policy. The need to move away from dependence on Foreign oil.

The US govt 'knows' that another nation is tacitly supporting the organisation that the 'war on terror' is all about. Yet because of energy dependence, and the need for oil to support the dollar, has to bend over and take it. Its weakness not conspiracy. The oil producers hold all the cards.

The patriots driving around with the 'support our troops' stickers on their SUVs are indirectly buying the IEDs and bullets used to kill those troops every time they fill up. Its beyond tragic and nobody is going to notice.

reply to post by weedwhacker


"al Qaeda" is just the name given to the Sunni extremists.

"al Qaeda" does exist, but only in the minds of westerners.

No group goes around calling itself "al Qaeda", if they did, we'd have someone to fight.

You're argument is that US secret cables claim there is an "al Qaeda" just like they do publicly...

How does that prove anything at all?

Originally posted by airspoon

Shocking cable: US says Saudi donors are chief financiers of al Qaeda

www.rawstory.com

A quick aside in a New York Times article about leaked diplomatic cables is sure to spark renewed interest about the role of the US' biggest ally in the Gulf supporting terrorism.

In their wide-ranging précis of the leaked cables, Times reporters Scott Shane and Andrew Lehren mention in passing a key detail from one of the diplomatic dispatches: "Saudi donors remain the chief financiers of Sunni militant groups like Al Qaeda."

(visit the link for the full news article)

And this is news?

The fact that 14/14 bombers linked to 9/11 where _a;;_ from the KOS didnt raise anyones eyebrows?

*shakes head.

wasn't it well known that the ruling House of Saud and the Hearts of Arabia controlled by
Wahhabi Muslim are scratching one anothers backs since the beginning of the soverign state of Saudi Arabia...
it's all looked at as a sort of payoff for Saud turning its back on Caliphate Islam


AQ gets funding also, but not as that organization, the funds are filtered through other parties,
just like the legendary bin Laden organization that was building mosques in frontier places
way before 9-11, if i recall it was when bin Laden was in Africa even before the Mujahadeen
involvement that (supposedly) spawned the fledgling AQ in Afghanistan (armed/funded by covert CIA $)


was the AQ notation on all sorts of wikileak notes or something?
AQ is just shorthand jargon in my book


What would be revealing would to get/establish $ linkage of Mossad funding AQ or other cells of terror

"Shocking cable: US says Saudi donors are chief financiers of al Qaeda"


That title made me laugh....

If this shocks or amazes anyone then this clearly demonstrates just how little many people actually know about whats really going on Various Saudi / al Qaeda connections have been posted in the press numerous times over the years but apparently many have chosen to simply ignore it

Here is just a small sampling. I'd post more but I'm off to the gym right now

Enjoy.

US Treasury dep't tags IIRO as al-Qaeda financier

08/04/2006 | 06:08 PM

The US Department of the Treasury on Thursday accused the Philippine and Indonesian branch offices of the Saudi-based International Islamic Relief Organization (IIRO) of raising funds for al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

The US government also accused Abd Al Hamid Sulaiman Al-Mujil, executive director of the IIRO in Saudi Arabia’s Eastern Province Branch, of using his position “to bankroll the al-Qaeda network in Southeast Asia."

US cites three Saudis as terrorists, slaps sanctions

Wed, 10 Oct 2007

Washington - US authorities Wednesday slapped financial sanctions on three Saudi Arabians, saying they raised money for an al-Qaeda affiliate responsible for bombings, kidnappings and other terrorist attacks in Southeast Asia. The men, all based in Saudi Arabia, have given "significant financial and other support" to the Abu Sayyaf group, the US Treasury Department said.

Link to Saudi cash

Aug 19, 2009

JAKARTA - A MAN believed to be from Saudi Arabia has been arrested on suspicion of smuggling money used to finance last month's deadly Jakarta hotel attacks, Indonesian police said on Wednesday.

Analysts have said that if the funding for the attacks came from abroad, a likely source would be Al-Qaeda. But police have not confirmed any connection between the hotel blasts and Saudi-born Osama bin Laden's organisation.

Al-Qaeda has allegedly financed previous suicide attacks in Indonesia including the 2002 Bali bombings that killed 202 people, and Noordin's first major operation, a 2003 truck bombing of the Jakarta Marriott that killed 12.

well Saudi Arabia is in Iraq right? Or are they in Afghanistan? One of the two.. right? oh thats right, we didn't care Suadi Arabia funded them.. stupid commission.

After 911 and the USA was grounded, all flights were cancelled for the sheeple. How ever the Bin ladin family, was flown safely home to the Saudi. They should have been to flown to gitmo and tried some water sports to find out were osama was. Or was it Tim osman?

reply to post by weedwhacker


Regardless of what you say, the story does not hold up, and everyone bloody well knows it...

It was more like a ritual sacrifice really, with many black ops hands in the mix...and yes some in the Bush administration knew ALL about it...spare us the oh this changes everything schtick...

reply to post by SLAYER69


Where's the drones?

It is shocking because most Americans don't get to think for themselves, they don't get to think why on earth is US and Saudi Arabia best friends? Why is there US troops and secret services in Saudi Arabia? blablabla..

At the same time, they eat the excuses regarding the bombardment of Pakistan using drones, and the invasion of Afghanistan, and the invasion of Iraq.

It just goes to show, brainwashing works, the evidence is the American public, the cure is?/

reply to post by illuminnaughty

After 911 and the USA was grounded, all flights were cancelled for the sheeple. How ever the Bin ladin family, was flown safely home to the Saudi.

Did we forget by whom ?