More evangelists appointed to Lords, Christians desperate to force their delusion upon my children, page 1

Among the newly announced intake of peers into the House of Lords are several high profile Christians of an evangelical bent. Among them are:


Bob Edmiston, multi-millionaire car dealer who founded Christian Vision, one of the largest international Christian religious organisations in the United Kingdom. It is a registered charity and in 2007 had an endowment of £200 million. Its mission is “To introduce people to Jesus and encourage those who acknowledge Him to accept Him as the Son of God and become His true followers

Sir Richard Dannatt, formerly Chief of General Staff in the British Army. An evangelical Anglican, Dannatt called for a return to traditional Judeo-Christian values in order to counter “the Islamist threat” within British society

Elizabeth Berridge is the retiring director of the Conservative Christian Fellowship, which is as reactionary as it sounds.

Sir Patrick Cormack is described as “a committed Christian”. He was a long-serving Tory MP and was a rector’s warden at Parliament’s parish church, St Margaret’s, Westminster, from 1978–90. His voting record on abortion, homosexuality and any socially progressive legislation is appalling.

Yes indeed folks, it's not good enough to hand out a leaflet about jesus and give intelligent thought as to the rejection of their delusion.

Oh no, these interfering bastards are really working hard in the background to bring society under their control .

Needless to say I'm in the forefront of the fight to free society and our children from these wicked people.

link www.secularism.org.uk...

reply to post by Y2KJMan

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Any person that believes in imaginary people should not be in a position of power.

reply to post by infolurker

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You will have your legs kicked out from under you when the Muslim call to prayer blasts from the loudspeakers in Downtown London long before those evil Christians cause you any problems other than being annoying. Then you will understand the "enforcement" of beliefs being forced upon you.

Exactly, xtianity had it's turn operated no different to islam and a hell of a lot of blood had to shed before reason started wining the day.

I'm not going back to that but I don't mind fighting on more than one front and am not settling for the lesser of 2 evils.

My children deserve better, remember the bastards in question are not even elected ! Who the hell would elect someone who hears voices in their heads believes that there is an invisible misogynistic homophobic man that lives in the sky ??

Well the ignorant, uneducated, poor and sick tend to

reply to post by nerbot

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take a look at the Uk education act just for starters -

"each pupil in attendance at a community, foundation or voluntary school shall on each school day take part in an act of collective worship."

Pick a deity, any deity as long as it "broadly christian"

So tell me,how exactly is christianity so much different to Islam ?

reply to post by The Djin

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Yes indeed folks, it's not good enough to hand out a leaflet about jesus and give intelligent thought as to the rejection of their delusion. Oh no, these interfering bastards are really working hard in the background to bring society under their control . Needless to say I'm in the forefront of the fight to free society and our children from these wicked people.

I agree. One is as bad as the other when used in this context. Forcing religion, any religion on children is wrong, and constitutes child abuse to me. Mark my words, if the great, rich, powerful Christian corporation and their extreme arm, the Christian Right could control America, they would, in a heartbeat. I guess the UK should not have open their back door and let all of those Muslim in in the first place. I have a friend over there, and she tells me things is getting bad in a lot of areas of law and government. Some want o force Sharia law on everyone, and teach in the schools.

reply to post by Y2KJMan

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Right, because our beliefs are somehow inferior to yours? Believing in no God is a religion all its own.

In relation to invisible men that live in the sky I'm an theist because of lack of evidence proving as such, this is not by any stretch of the imagination regardless to what your pastor or Kirk Cameron will "tell" you to think.

Indeed, your appearance suspending any semblance of the ability to think critically would suggest an inferiority .

So now, even you cannot influence our government. Who will do so? Or should we live in anarchy?

Far from it, people like me have,can and will influence a government, remember the roman catholic church was once the government.

Do me a favor and get off your high horse, remember it takes all kinds... and then get over yourself.

I'm not the one proselytizing to the poor having a history and instruction manual of child rape murder and misogyny .

No doubt you'll forgive me ?

reply to post by autowrench

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I have a friend over there, and she tells me things is getting bad in a lot of areas of law and government. Some want o force Sharia law on everyone, and teach in the schools.

She doesn't lie (unlike the religious ) the christians are in a panic their churches are being turned into flats and furniture shops due to lack of interest (and lack of evidence) in their delusion.
They desperate to get access to young minds and in my opinion are the ones stirring up the fearmongering in relation to sharia law etc.

Indeed, it is true that many a Muslim would have sharia law in the uk if they could but that's a dead dog on the off in the UK, there is simply too much money involved in bacon, breasts, and womens magazines lol

reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron

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If you're encouraging them to think for themselves, then why not allow them to learn about God and Christ our Savior?

Indeed they have, the source of the yahwhe/jesus character is the bibles my kids can read them whenever they wish and have read a little of them.

Both my kids find the yawhe/jesus character quite disgusting interestingly enough .

We are given the gift of free-will for a reason.

This is something that you choose to believe, however reason would dictate the if the yahweh/jesus god is the creator of all that there is, was , or will ever be then the created being able to act in a manner cotrary to the will of the alleged creator can at the most be an illusion.

If they choose to follow Christ, that's their free- will choice and they should be allowed to make it. What may not be for you, isn't necessarily not for them.

My kids figured out quite quickly that having a choice of compliance or death does not in any way constitute freedom of choice.

End Times

End times ? Who says so ? Where you get that from some bronze age scribe ?

I take it you don't have a pension then ?

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