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No, I didn't miss it, but I can't see how this relates to christianity's killing millions before modern science was even thought of, or how 'science' was brought into it all. Except ofcourse, that you by misquoting me wanted to score a debate point. You certainly are a very clever person, who can make such elegant traps.
I said in my post to Y2KJMan thusly: " Seen from a rational and logical perspective, your (religious) beliefs ARE undoubtly inferior to secular ones." I didn't especially point to science, because I find the 'satanic science' debate rather moronic.
But I'll still stay with my opinion, that christian beliefs are inferior in a RATIONAL and LOGIC perspective. You get it this time? (In case this is beyond you, what's rational about a 6.000 year old geocentric universe????)
Furthermore you enlightened us:
"It isn't a smokescreen it is the truth. Jesus said:..........."
You really so bad off, that you don't know what circle-argumentation IS? Sorry, I'll not even try to waste my time on explaining it to you. For further communication I can cite any old holy book of my choice and you can use your book. An approach which certainly will commend christianity to non-believers, who only are waiting for a chance to be saved through listening to a selfcontradictory bunch of non-sense which is true, because it says it's true.
"They" (=liberals) don't hold ultimate power. That's the whole idea of liberalism. Whereas ultimate power is the political system examplified by all fascists ideologies (amongst them christian theocracy).
Your further comments about individual spirituality I can ofcourse only agree with. That's part of the inclusive liberal system, but if you had read this thread from the start, instead of jumping in somewhere from halfread posts, you would have noticed, that the OP topic was about social contexts and social consequences of christian missionary or invasive attitudes. Not your personal spiritual life, which may be interesting for some people, but not for me as a posting opponent.
You are a prime example of someone who post purposely to spread hate. IMHO
Originally posted by zroth
Originally posted by The Djin
reply to post by zroth
Having said that, all children deserve a relationship with God.
Which one and how exactly ?
There is only one. .
Originally posted by DrChuck
Oh God,not this bulls**t again. Jeez Djin, don't you have anything better to post than Christian hate? I've seen all your threads, and just gotta say "Wow". You seriously have issues you need to tend to.
I agree that all Christians are hypocrites, and all screw up, and none have the answers your looking for. But so is everybody else in the world, including you.
Its beyond me why someone trying to share their beliefs is such a evil thing. You speak as if they were trying to eat your children. Nobodies busting down your door, putting a gun at your head and telling you to recite the Lords Prayer or the Apostles Creed. Although I think it would be funny if they did (oh, your gonna use this comment to show the world how a single persons opinion represents and proves that all Christians are evil aren't you? :@@
If you are so against religion then don't live by it. Live by the secular(evolutionary) rules, where the strong preys upon the weak - survival of the fittest. Murder, rape, theft, robberies, swindling, is all fair game, it is after all survival of the fittest. Evolution does not reward altruism and the charitable. It rewards the greedy, predatory and the unremorseful.
So even if my religion is a bunch of bull, I would follow it just on the premises that it carries with it some guidance to distinguish myself from animals.
Don't bother to reply, I won't be reading it, you'll just annoy me.