Sweden seeks Wikileaks boss arrest over rape claim

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posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 10:37 AM
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Sounds like hes getting set up, once arrested; they will torture him, lock him up and/or kill him.

I think he needs to go on the run while evidence is collected to prove his innocence. He needs to find himself a safe house.




posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 10:53 AM
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What is with the Swedes?! I can't get my head around this. The guy has been all over the place for years doing his thing and only just now he flips out and starts harassing women, eh? Not just any women, but some of the freer and more sexually accommodating female populations on the planet. Right. No bells going off over here!

This is one stinky scenario. You have to wonder.



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 11:16 AM
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In a letter from lawyer Björn Hurtig to the British co-counsels, Hurtig tells about the many times, he tried to make a date between Julian Assange and chief prosecutor Marianne Ny for a hearing, which all were denied by her.

What I find very remarkable is this sentence:


In the last section I tell her that if she proceeds with her plans of a custodytrial, I want all documents. This I say because I don not trust them to give me everything.


Hurtig's letter



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 12:37 PM
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I told you guys he was a rapist and now it's almost proven right... Assange acts like he is helping us when he needs to help himself... He has not been dropped of the charges and NOW you will see this putz on the run!!!!!



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 12:54 PM
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Index on Censorship responds to Julian Assange allegations


A Swedish prosecutor today requested that Julian Assange, founder of the Wikileaks whistleblower website, be detained for interrogation concerning a re-opened sexual assault investigation. The application could lead to an international arrest warrant. Assange denies accusations of rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion, which surfaced shortly after the website released the Afghanistan War Logs, containing thousands of leaked US military incident reports. Index on Censorship trustee Mark Stephens, who is Assange’s lawyer, commented: “The behaviour of the investigators has been bizarre. I’ve never seen anything like it in 30 years of legal practice. We haven’t been able to answer the specifics of the smear because the investigators won’t detail the allegations and they haven’t responded to Mr Assange’s voluntary offers of interview.” Index on Censorship chief executive John Kampfner said: “While we cannot comment on the specifics of the case, we are extremely concerned at the apparent conduct of the investigators. Anyone concerned about free speech and human rights will be alarmed at any suggestion that the allegations against Mr Assange are being manipulated for political purposes.”


Source: www.indexoncensorship.org...



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 01:12 PM
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I am from sweden and I know how dirty even Swedes can be. Swedish girls are world famous for their craziness and they really can entangle a person in a problem sometimes. A very common case when the girls often get drunk and they have sex with a bloke, but afterwards they regret and signing the blokes to the police. In a country like Sweden, where girls have more power in generally, they seem to misuse it most of the time. In Julians case, I think "they" have used these facts and set him up.



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
People seem to be discounting the possibility that there may be some truth to these claims.

It may seem a bit coincidental or ''convenient''.


Yep. Think about it. How easy it is for him to say :"It's a conspiracy, it's only a way to get me".

And most people will believe it.

Assange is a bright guy. If he really did rape someone, he knew nobody would believe it and think it's a conspiracy against him.

I don't say he did, but if he did, he knew nobody would believe it.



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 01:36 PM
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It is entirely too convenient. Sexuality in Sweden and all the Nordic countries is free and uninhibited. I find it highly doubtful that Assange felt like rape was a good idea at such a delicate time - he had just asked for residence, had he not? Or has it been forgotten that he requested residency there in mid-August? Not enough coincidence, eh?

So having just made the request, he sets about a few rapes and molestations to help out his case. Is that reasonable? How many of you have had to ask for residence somewhere? If you have, you know that committing any sort of crime, even a parking ticket, is upsetting. They put you under a microscope up here. And he's not unknown so just where is the logic? If one woman said no, he would find another with little to no trouble. It's SWEDEN, for the love of Mike!

The Swedish cops are another thing altogether. They couldn't find their backsides with both hands. But there's something more sinister here -- and it's not Assange. There's an actor motivating the Swedes' actions. The question is: Who is it and why? He has made a few enemies recently.



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by CosmicEgg
It is entirely too convenient. Sexuality in Sweden and all the Nordic countries is free and uninhibited. I find it highly doubtful that Assange felt like rape was a good idea at such a delicate time - he had just asked for residence, had he not? Or has it been forgotten that he requested residency there in mid-August? Not enough coincidence, eh?

So having just made the request, he sets about a few rapes and molestations to help out his case. Is that reasonable? How many of you have had to ask for residence somewhere? If you have, you know that committing any sort of crime, even a parking ticket, is upsetting. They put you under a microscope up here. And he's not unknown so just where is the logic? If one woman said no, he would find another with little to no trouble. It's SWEDEN, for the love of Mike!

The Swedish cops are another thing altogether. They couldn't find their backsides with both hands. But there's something more sinister here -- and it's not Assange. There's an actor motivating the Swedes' actions. The question is: Who is it and why? He has made a few enemies recently.


Well said!



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes

Originally posted by Chevalerous
And the current female Prosecutor reopened the case soley based on the very weak stories from the two women involved, who already admitted that they both had voluntary sex with Assange.


How are you or I to know the full details of the accusers' stories ? Are you privy to the full statements that they made ?

Somebody agreeing to have voluntary sex with someone, doesn't rule out the possibility of rape or molestation.


I'm not saying whether he's guilty or innocent of these charges, it's just that all too often people form an opinion on someone's guilt or innocence purely from their own personal bias and/or because of excerpts of unverified information that they may read in newspapers or on a website.





How are you or I to know the full details of the accusers' stories ? Are you privy to the full statements that they made ?


Hello Sherlock Holmes!

No! I don't have any access to their full statements - and I don't have all the details. that's true!

But I have read some very interesting stuff at the Swedish forum site: Flashback Forum about the first women - and some people & web dectives from this Swedish forum have digital copies of every page from her blogs which she closed down to clean up when Assange was charged.

I dont know anything about woman number 2 - but woman number one is especially interesting, and kind of suspicious to me.

1. Woman number one had written tons of articles and strange blog-posts about rape - and she was also once a research assistant at one University where one WHOLE department + the female professor, are hardcore radical feminists who hate men in general. And she is politically active and was running for local political office and perhaps had a feminist political agenda to make a point about something?

2. On her blog she had earlier written a 7 Step Guide To Legal Revenge.

3. She had also written posts earlier this year to her radical feminist friends about a hypothetical rape case, and she wondered:

"Is it possible to get a man charged/convicted of rape even if the sexual act started out voluntarily - and even if there had been no violence/threats or force during the sexual act? - and if so, how do you do to get him charged/convicted?"

So here you have a radical feminist who has been blogging earlier this year with her radical feminist friends ON HOW to send a man to jail.

Of course, she can say it was only a hypothetical case that she was playing with in her head, in Court - but anyway! how damn twisted is this chick?


But yeah! maybe Assange is guilty to "something" regarding these two women, but I really don't think there was any rape to begin with regarding woman number 1 - probably just the minor stuff about banging her in the morning without a condom.


The other girl I don't know more information about - but it's probably also a "without condom the morning after" case as well since this woman contacted woman number one because she was worried about STD's.

And perhaps Assange were banging them both while they were still asleep - and he did this without a condom on both occasions?

Both of them wanted Assange to go and do a test which he apparently according to some sources refused to do - so the women went to the Police and asked for an advice regarding this, and asked if the Police could force him to do so or charge him regarding this matter.

Then the whole thing came out in the media that Saturday morning, and the farce and circus regarding whether it was rape or not was discussed in several special group meetings with many different groups of prosecutors who were appointed to look over the case since the lawyer protested to appeal.

The chief prosecutor had dropped the rape charges, and the women's lawyer went beserk and protested loudly against this and demanded that the case would be re-opened.

And yeah! I think the Swedish Police and prosecutors have handled this case like stoned & drunken monkeys! - the Swedish legal expertise are baffled by all these twists and turns from the Swedish Police and the several female prosecutors who were involved with the case.

You must admit that some of the twists & turns about this case are really some wierd stuff. And then you have the crazy handling of this case by so many different female prosecutors from different ranks in the special prosecutor group who studied this case together, to see if they could find the legal reasons to prosecute in this "so called" rape-case. There's definitely some suspicious behaviour going on from the many involved prosecutors here - I thought you already knew about all this since you're Sherlock Holmes!
lol!

Something just ain't right if you ask me! - it's very fishy indeed!

And yes! perhaps he's guilty to "something" minor according to Swedish Law - but I personally really don't believe that the charge about rape will hold in Court.

The farce will continue for sure, stay tuned!
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posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 03:37 PM
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Good evening, Chevalerous.

Thanks for your informative post.

The things you tell me about the first woman does make her sound highly suspicious, and the stuff that she wrote on her blog before the allegations do appear to put her claims in a rather precarious position.


I've got no time for feminists, and I'm aware that some women do make allegations up to get back at a man.

However, being a feminist and being unethical does not make someone immune from being a victim of rape.

All I'm saying is that we perhaps shouldn't write these claims off before we see whether it goes to court or not, and before the full story is known.



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 08:02 PM
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Maybe the guy is a creep, but, where I am from, you are innocent until PROVEN guilty. Furthermore,
he has stepped on quite a few toes. So, in a situation like that, the ones with the bruised toes find
your weakness and exploit it. Case Scenario: Plant an attractive woman who gets the target alone,
and cries foul. The bad press alone is enough to not only make your life miserable, but to discredit
your whole enterprise. I remain unbiased,,as ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I thought that fella was gay.



One of the oldest "tricks" in the "Magical Book of Changes" S&F



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 09:02 AM
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Source (in swedish): www.samtycke.nu...


One of the women that has reported the assaults is Anna Ardin, christian, feminist and social democrat.

Saturday 14 August at 14 o'clock, Anna Ardin writes on twitter.com/annaardin:
Julian wants to attend a crayfish party, anyone that have any vacancies tonight or tomorrow ?

Early on the morning of Sunday, August 15, she wrote again on Twitter:
Sitting outside and not freezing, with the coolest, brightest people, that's amazing !

In connection with the Anna Ardin police notification of Julian Assange August 20, she deleted the comments at Anna Ardin Twitter. Why?
To my knowledge it is not common for real victims to delete blogs, clean phones and trying to get witnesses to testify something that is not true. Why is it so important that these comments be deleted?

If you know that the reported "assault" took place on the night before Saturday 14 August the whole thing becomes more understandable. The comments suggest the fact that Anna Ardin really liked Julian and there had been no abuse 24 hours before.
These comments doesn't show that Anna Ardin believes that Julian has a skewed attitude to women and can not take no for an answer. The comments are more an attempt by Anna Ardin to bask in the glory of Julian Assange. Why else would she publish them online?

Comments on Twitter does not fit with Anna's story to the police on 20 May.
So she simply deletes them.

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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 02:47 PM
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There is a difference in the warrant issued. The equivelant in the US would be a material witness warrant. When a person has vital information to a crime and refuses to cooperate with the investigation a material witness arrest warrant can be issued. This allows the witness to be arrested and detained until such time the information they have is oresented to the court. This is used only when the person is a witness and not a participant to the crime.

To me this looks like the same thing they are doing in Sweden, although to be honest I have never seen it used in a fashion where it allows the person arrested to be questioned for a crime he supposedly took part in. In the US this would be a no go because of a persons 5th amendment right. I always assumed Sweden had something along the same lines in their country about providing evidence against himself.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 05:35 PM
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Anyone who thinks this isnt a calculated moe against the man is either insane or a shill.
What are the odds of this case coming up just as he released the afghan documents?
What are the odds of it coming up again as he considers releasing russian info?
What are the odds of two women who dont know each other both knowing the other had been raped also and working together to prosecute him? at those exact times without any prior meetings? and while tampering with evidence?

It blows my mind that anyone could possibly debate that this is a genuine case.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 05:39 PM
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You see does not matter if true or not, there are crimes they can accuse you off, that stick and weakens a public likeliness to believe him.

They can accuse anyone of anything. He was probably not smart enough to keep his pants on or stay away from traps or what ever females are called that are traps by gov and police.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 05:42 PM
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Give him a trial.

It wouldn't be the first time a 'genius', as people have called him, has thought he was above the law. A surprising number of murderers and rapists have genius level intelligence.

Whether it's because they have anti-social/psychotic tendencies or maybe because they want to see if they're smart enough to get away with it, it happens more than you would think.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 06:39 PM
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Just seen this and was going to make a thread...you beat me to it.


I'm calling BS on this!!!!!

nice way to discredit a man and everything he works for.




Its so flipping obvious!!!! that's what gets me so wound up!!!!





wish I was a sheep Id get more sleep!!!!!



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 04:52 AM
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Well, we already know he is a criminal by simply looking at the files he released to the public. He violated laws in a few countries by releasing the information, which he pretty much portrayed as a personal vendetta.

Just because he is under investigation for rape / molestation etc does not neccisarily mean the the leak is connected to the filed complaint. Insinuating that ignores the complaint made by the female, trivializing a possibly justified complaint.

I find it funny people are quick to distort information on the basis of a conspiracy theory. These same people are quick to hold the US Government accountible, while at the very same time not holding assange accountible for his actions.

Mr. Assange has gone on record stating he wants to expose the US and its "lies". I find it hypocritical that he then turns and complains that people are looking into his life. He is the one who made himself a public figure. As he has done with the US, if MR. Assange has nothing to hide, then go to sweden and face the music.

If he doesnt, then he loses all credibility.



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 05:04 AM
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Originally posted by Now_Then
Well supposedly our fearless Mr Wikileaks was just about to go after the Russians next time... He's not going to be popular with 2 of the most powerful nations on the earth at least
I bet they have a list of every girl (or boy?!) he's ever even kissed and they have looked deeply at each and every one...


Exactly, lol, he was going after the 2 countries you would not want to target, lol.

Yep they will know everything about him, and like you say anyone that hated him can make up anything.





 
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