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Originally posted by godddd
Maybe we are just programmed to follow a certain pattern like we have now which is our life in the society with its politics, economics and religions.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
I try not to have one of my own, and keep an open mind freely from any presumptuous bias or apriori conclusion. At the same time, however, I am hopelessly compelled to try to keep describing it in one form or another! (as you would be able to tell from the link to my re-interpretation of "Alchemy" in my sig) in the endless pursuit of a newfound, mutually shared, "enlightenment", to do whatever I can to help usher us all into the future, which by its very nature, is an unknown unknown and therefore impossible to access (as the realm of all knowledge, all truth, all everything, from what is to what is becoming).
I have been forced conclude however, by reason and evidence, that the reality of reality itself, by virtue of it's very ah "reality", precludes the idea that it's an absurd meaninglessness..
What it means precisely, is ultimately up to each of us to freely evaluate and choose for ourselves.
That said however, I still think that the creation of the world represents a victory of persuasion over force.
So while there's plenty of evidence that we all share the same reality, and that there IS one, and, that it is meaningful - precisely what is means and signifies I cannot say, thank God.
But at times, and, as a result of a seminar I attended one time called "The Landmark Forum" (some of you may have heard of it), I've become present to the presence, of nothing ie: a meaningless absurdity of absolute uncertainty, and there, I concluded, or intuited-apprehended/grokked, the idea, and the deeply held conviction, that in the space of nothing, where there is nothing in particular that we MUST DO (by preordination), or an "unconditioned" ground of being..
that in the end my love of people, is the ONLY thing left, or the compelling desire to love and to be loved, which, if the only possible real "meaning" that can be enjoyed, for the sake of love and what is simply FUN, including all manner of co-creative or collaborative creativity (also in the space of nothing), envelopes us, and therefore, in the context of a non-localized, holographic universe (my understanding of modern science) IS who and what we REALLY are; once were; and are to be again - because it's the only thing which makes any sense to me, when there is nothing left, at all, and no time or memory, no habituated personal ongoing drama, no real separate >self< even; nothing the real nothing which is the actual FUTURE. It's what I call the holy of holies, this sphere or realm or domain of infinite possibiliy, to which we stand even now, relative, both to everything, to one another and to ourselves, although in my conception of it, there needn't be a "tow rope from behind" any more (they used to do that to the high priests in case they DIED when entering, so as to prevent a cataclysm of dying guys, each more corrupted than the last, to retrieve the dead body!!!)
and so the good news then, imho, is that we ARE in fact, still alive! We're in nothing at the end of time, and yet we did not die!
Therefore, I am forced to say, in conclusion..
P.S. As an aisde, I've also concluded, that it the modern science is to be accepted and integrated, that we must also accept the idea that our true self, the choosing self, the free self, does not in fact reside in time and space or in 3 dimensional reality, but is distributed non-locally and holographically, and so, provided we don't waiver in indeterminacy (say "maybe" instead of a clear yes, or no) and are prepared to choose, and excercise our freedom, and do so in a non-judgemental way, without assigning strong VALUES to people, places and things, then we are set free to freely fly as spiritual beings in the spacious firmament of increasing spheres of love and freedom. We are released from the bondage of a dying materialist monism, and then there it is imo - the re-enchantment of the cosmos, the "revelation of the sons of God" which all creation has been groaning in travail to birth or give rise to. A new age of reason, AND, of spirit, of mystical traditions, and modern science, of something both old and new.
"The kingdom of heaven is like a storekeeper, who brings forth from his storehouse (treasurehouse) both things old and new."edit on 11-11-2010 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)