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Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Amazing how many of you assume because I oppose the Bush tax credit I support any tax at all.
Yes, our government spends to much.
Money like power is not going to be given up by those that have it.
And the fact is the government is going to make up for their losses !
I never said I agree with it , I'm just stating a fact.
1. The Bush tax credit is the government giving the wealthy a prime rib dinner and throwing the people a bone .
2. The Bush tax credit eliminated billions from the governments (feeding trough) revenue.
3. The Bush tax credit saved individules maybe 2 thousand a year, and saved the wealthy100,000's thousands
4. Who do you think is going to is going to make up for the lost revenue ?
5. The City's, the Countys, the States, and the Federal Governments ARE going to make up for their losses,
weather The Bush tax credit stays in affect or not, and they are NOT going to burden the wealthy with
higher taxes.
Originally posted by BigTimeCheater
reply to post by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Who are you to state that people who believe in keeping the fruits of ones labor lack morals, ethics and compassion?
Take care of yourself and stop relying on government and other people to subsidize your irresponsible life choices.
I could say you lack morals since you want the government to dictate how businesses are ran, and what people do with their own money.edit on 28-10-2010 by BigTimeCheater because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by OLD HIPPY DUDE
i think its immoral and unethical to steal from someone else
what you are failing to realize is what happens to one american can and will happen to you
agian its immoral and unethical to stand by and let someone else be roobed no matter what your "wealth" or "class" standing is in this world.
there are no poor,rich,educated or ignorant people those are labels that are used to divide us
and united we stand and divided we fall
i am an american looking out for my fellow american
and if you consider that immoral and unethical thats a label i can live with
what i cant live with is just to sit by and let this slide by
it may not be knocking on your door just yet but
sooner or later it will.edit on 28-10-2010 by neo96 because: (no reason given)[/quote
You ,neo96 ,not only assume too much you talk out of both sides of your mouth at the same time.
You know nothing about me or my life.
You claim you are an american looking out for your fellow americans, what have you done about forclosures,
what have you done about losing jobs to over seas, what have you done about the bailout of the banks ?
And yet you support the wealthy.
Please tell us all about how you look out for your fellow americans.
Talk is cheap so keep talking.
You ,neo96 ,not only assume too much you talk out of both sides of your mouth at the same time. You know nothing about me or my life.
You claim you are an american looking out for your fellow americans, what have you done about forclosures,
what have you done about losing jobs to over seas, what have you done about the bailout of the banks ? And yet you support the wealthy.
Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Who are you to assume I rely on the government for anything, and others to subsidize my life choices.
YOU know nothing about me or life in the real world except what the talking heads on T.V. tell you what to think.
And the wealthy know nothing about labor except hiring the cheapest.
If big business had ANY moral or ethical values the government wouldn't need to dictate how to run business's.
You , BigTimeCheater, assume to much and you need to check youself.
edit on 28-10-2010 by OLD HIPPY DUDE because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Funny how this turned into a three way argument, not unusual for those that have an agenda to divide and conquer through confusion.
Those of you who defend the wealthy are in a whole different class of people, the same class as our corrupt politicians and the greedy, self centered wealthy.
You all lack morals, ethics and compassion.
The wealthy don't need any help defending themselfs , their actions speak louder than words, so what motivates your defense of the wealthy, are you a mouth piece for the wealthy, or are naive to the truth or are you just plain ignorant of the facts?
The wealthy have made their money off the backs of the people for years and when the people stand up for themselves the wealthy use the government to quiet the people.
Like Rockefeller did in Ludlow Colorado in 1914.
Our government is full of people who have build their careers working for big company's and entering politics only to represent the companys they worked for and not the people.
A perfect of that is Dick Cheney and Haliburton.
Big business tried to fight the government back when F.D.R. was Pres.and they lost, but they did realize that they could infiltrate the government to push their agenda and buy added support with their huge profits.
The money that is being spent to get elected now a day is crazy, only the wealthy can run, or those who support the wealthy and less taxes for the wealthy and less regulations on wealthy business get elected.
Does anyone really think the common people can donate enough money to get an honest person elected?
The real sad thing is anyone of us would do the samething as the crooked politicians if we were given the chance.
God forgive me if I say workers deserve a fair wage, because many of you think that is socialism.
I guess you feel bondage is ok ?
It is you who chooses to cherry pick from my comments , I do not support the way our government treats our people,I do not support our tax system, or government regulations and I do not support how many( not all ) businesses do business in this country.
It is not the common folk who dump toxic waste in our forests and rivers to cut cost and keep profits high.
It is not the common folk who make drugs with numerous side effects and cause death then get the government to protect them with limited liability to keep profits high.
It is not the common folk who were responsable for the Valdese oil spill or the Gulf oil spill.
It is not the common folk who are responsable for distribution of contaminated food that make people sick and cause death to keep profits high.
It is not the common folk who hire lobbyists and pay them millions to get laws and regulations changed to keep over head low and profits high.
It is not the common folk who hire high priced lawyers to drag out liabilty law suits to make sure liability compinsation is low and profits stay high.
Saying I am jealious of the wealthy is just so old. What it is , is contempt for those who lack compassion for humanity , animals and the enviorment for the sake of money, power and control.
There is nothing wrong with for striving for a better life for youself and your family just not at the expense of others. Maybe if more of you hit bottom and claw your way back, you would understand.