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Originally posted by WestPoint23
you know who is going to win that competition next time the americans with their metal storm tech you could fire 21.000 rounds in 20 sec o less
[edit on 27-6-2004 by WestPoint23]
Originally posted by UK Wizard
from the info it looks like the SA80 doesn't work when it's hot and/or dusty
No automatic rifle works when it's hot and/or dusty, not in extreme circumstances. Not even the legendary AK47 will forgive a moron who allows the workings to clog with sand.
Originally posted by para3183
Thank you, somebody is now talking sence. something else is the dust in the deserts will stick to the oil which is used to lubricate the weapons (all weapons even the simplest bolt action weapon needs oil) which will cause the working parts of the weapon to jam.
Personally I have used both the such loved by the computer geek M4 and the hated L85 and L86 (LSW), they both performed just as well, and that isn't hear say, I have used both in operational enviroments.
Something I would like to add is that the modifications made by H&K have improved the weapon and reduced cleaning on the weapons thanks to Tefal (They have covered most of the parts in non-stick teflon).
Something I noticed at the begining of this thread, L85 is lighter than the M16, shorter than the M16 and has a very simila barrel length to the M16, a simila rate of fire and a similia mussle velocity and stopping power, and as a matter of fact it's much more accurate and easyer to fire.
But, the L86, what were Enfield thinking when they designed it, it has the same rate of fire and might as well be the same stopping power and mussle velocity as the L85 but its bigger and heavier. It is more accurate but this isn't actually required. Thank god they have now replaced it with the Section Automatic Weapon (SAW) Minimi a belt fed 5.56MM machene gun.
Oh and the G36, its a waste of space it looks nice and thats where the good points end, a few people I know were involved in some trials with it (including myself) and we found the L85 to be better in nearly every way.
For you information, Lt. D Coy. 1st Btln Parachute Regt
Originally posted by minimi
Originally posted by Hyperen
Yeah and it makes it more dangerous for some people to shoot because it can only be operated from right handed configuration because it is bullpup I read.
[edit on 26/6/04 by Hyperen]
This is an inherent problem with all bullpup designs due to the mechanism being back by the firers face. The cartridge case would be ejected into the firers cheek. Standard layout weapons have the cartridge case ejection forward, so if you fire it left handed, the cartridges just fly across infront of you.
[edit on 26-6-2004 by minimi]