Undebunkable 9\11 video.

reply to post by GhostLancer


Seeing you bring up star wars,reminded me of this...

This is how liberty dies

Hey viper, thats twice youve said that....

Actions speak louder than words mate, and you sure make some noise...so why dont you "tear away" then??

Let me guess......cant find your buddies for backup??

reply to post by Black_Fox


Still working on the exact figure, but the FBI alone spent 3.9 million man hours on the investigation. Even at minimum wage that works out to over 20 million dollars...and im pretty sure the average FBI wage is well above minimum.

Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by Black_Fox

 

Another prime reason many of us do not take the "truth" movement seriously when they start carping about a new "independant" investigation, they always end up comparing the 9/11 Commissions to the Whitewater investigation in regards to the money spent. And they never ONCE consider the millions of dollars spent by the FBI, CIA, NSA, NYPD, etc during their work investigating the events of 9/11.

The investigation into 911 should have been the most expensive ever mounted by a considerable margin - the commission was given $14 million. Yes other investigations were carried out but we are talking the COMMISSION - other commissions have been carried out, and THEY TOO had many varied expensive extra inquiries - however the COMMISSIONS on many of these projects vastly outweighed the financials of the 911 enquiry, both shuttle disasters saw almost triple, quadruple the amount, while the Starr Commission cost almost $40 million. ALL of these had extra costs associated with the inquiries.

How is it even conceivable in anyone's mind that the allocated $14 million to the 911 enquiry is not a clear, unquestionable attempt at limiting their resources is simply beyond imagination - it stinks of bias and a complete inability to see that greater powers were at work here to LIMIT THE INVESTIGATION - how is it even possible that the two post responsible for this were allowed to testify without recordings, without documentation, to a pre-approved list of questions none of which could ever be released - while the commander in chief only testified if Cheyney was allowed to be there with him and advise him - you have got to be kidding me if you think, for one second that nothing was going on there - $14 million wouldn't cover the Presidents daily entourage - yet that is all that was allocated to investigate the most wide reaching, devastating foreign attack on the US mainland in all Americas history - that fact alone - $14 million - without camping it to any other commission should be enough for anyone to scream cover up.

Unbelievable - flabbergasted at the absolute willingness of people to be so obsequious to government propaganda.

reply to post by Namaste1001


Seriously, deep down, don't you have to wonder at the possibilities. I mean, our great gov'mnt has been caught BSing before? Very well compartmentalized and has plausible deniability....best of the best are hired where it counts; many times through private contracts. Oh yeah baby

reply to post by Namaste1001

As far as I'm concerned a totally undebunkable statement on the the events of 9/11.

Sounds pretty desperate to me.

As far as im concerned, anyone who tells me "This is 100% undebunkable" is trying to hide something.

The 911 commission is a joke, almost laughable.

I think it is probably more appropriate to focus on Bush than Obama in terms of 9/11.

Granted Obama is simply spouting out elements of the official story, no doubt this is for a reason, but this whole thing took place under Bush' watch. I don't think that was a coincidence. His family is a part of the Carlyle Group, had dealings with the Bin Laden/Saudi family, and he has connection to the Project For a New American Century (PNAC) who laid out a strategy involving a "new Pearl Harbor" in order to secure control of the Middle-East.

In the document from the PNAC regarding building Americas defenses they mention that: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event--like a new Pearl Harbor."

The PNAC exerted influence on high-level U.S. government officials in the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush and affected the Bush Administration's development of military and foreign policies, especially involving national security and the Iraq War

- Wiki

The statements made by Bush, Cheney, and Rice were contradicting and alarming. Especially when they started to swing focus towards Iraq, in such an insidious way as to not even be noticed by the general public.

It's more relevant to listen to what the Bush administration had to say about this, rather than the administration that came after it.

Why should I care what Obama has to say about 9/11?

At this point he is simply proven to be ineffectual, and "change-less".
If 9/11 was planned by members of the government, how important would his role even have been at the time?

Unless this is all about pushing Obama to make steps toward full disclosure, it's kind of weak to put all of this on Obamas' shoulders when there are more damning ties that can be linked to Bush and his administration.

How on Earth are they not in this video at all?

- Lee

reply to post by Snarf


Speaking of people saying things in order to hide the truth,hmmmmmm

The functional issue of 911 is that it has led to two wars - all of casualties associated with them on both sides, all of the expenses associated with these wars, these expenses accruing to the accounts of companies like Haliburton, the government's ability to impose wiretaps on our phones and our internet connection without a court order, the government's ability to track the finances of anyone for any reason - nationally and internationally, to body scanners, etc., etc., etc., etc.

If it is as the government asserts in its official story... well, maybe we do need all of this; but when was the last time the government was accurate or honest with the regular taxpayer on anything? These are not all within the government's right to "take freely" from us without due diligence and due process. The government has complied with neither.

Instead... there are some people who will not only defend the government's ability to take from us anything it wants, but who will go further and decry those who doth protest as something other than people wanting to make sure they get all of the facts they can before simply handing over to the government - everything.

So, what else does the government want from us? What else will you defend the government taking from us that is not theirs to have? Seems like you want to take away the mere right for us to question stories that - really demonstrate the complete and total inability of the government to do its job - on the countless times it could have stopped the terrorists. Same with the gulf spill, same with the SEC watching porn while the market collapsed... same with Rumsfeld admitting that the DOD could not account for $3 trillion the day before 911.

You want to take everything from our pockets and give it to people and organizations so absolutely and completely incompetent that even with all of these new powers - the conclusion of DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano is that Americans are a greater threat to America than terrorists?

Hmmm.

snarf..

2 minutes prior to your post above, suspecting somebody was "hiding something"(God knows what...),you posted this on the "China refuels in Iran" thread....

" Does it matter?
I mean c'mon, isn't it about time to drop the contrarian attitude and face reality??"


How ironic that you choose to ignore "reality" in this thread.....yet lecture others regarding your perception of "reality"......

Maybe you meant to post the above here.....

And if not....what do you think is being hidden from you....its all in plain sight if you look....

Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by AwakeinNM

 

Do they still teach Reading Comprehension in public schools?

I pointed out that the video was typical, a bunch of lies and proceeded to point out the one I considered most offensive. I then followed up with a post on another one of the lies told in the video. Did I once say that those two, short posts debunked the video? No, I did not. However, I could take apart more of his lies......

Why do you find it Offensive? Unless you were directly involved with the investigation.... i mean cover up?
I have yet to see you prove the bunch of lies or so you claim in the video. The video is on point and straight to the point. Your point is moot btw. Im waiting for you to debunk anything but i wont hold my breath

Great video @ OP S&F!

Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by Black_Fox

 

Still working on the exact figure, but the FBI alone spent 3.9 million man hours on the investigation. Even at minimum wage that works out to over 20 million dollars...and im pretty sure the average FBI wage is well above minimum.

People at the FBI get paid salary and not by the hour

Good video.

Will the U.N. take up Ahmadinejad’s challenge to create a new, international 9/11 commission?

What have the people of other countries and their MSM said about his speech? Yay or Nay?

Will it be the international community that finally demands answers from the U.S. and proves the truther's case?

Or,
did Ahmadinejad just hijack the face of the 9/11 truth movement to make it completely irrelevant and improbable, as now anyone that disbelieves the OS could be labeled as an Ahmadinejad sympathizer/potential terrorist..?

reply to post by Black_Fox


Well this is a step in the right direction.
Pinning everything on Obama, even 9-11 when he wasn't even close to presidential office, smacks of partisan bias.

How about we focus on the administration in charge when this went down?

What was the Bush administration saying at the time?

hmmmmm?

- Lee

I have kind of a revelation about 9/11. I'm not sure if anyone has really looked at it in this way? But, looking at the evidence of a controlled demolition. What obviously must be true?

Well, whoever planned it was obviously targeting only the 3 world trade center buildings. We know that, but. If it were a blood thirsty terrorist attack, wouldn't you think that they wouldn't give a crap about the surrounding buildings? Why go through the trouble of a controlled demolition? Why not just bomb the buildings? If I'm some blood thirsty terrorist, do you think I'm going to care if the building falls straight down? It tells me that the people involved were very targeted in what they destroyed. What is to be gained from the destruction of these particular buildings? What I'm also saying is that lives were spared, it's not just a wild blood thirsty attack.

I'm not so sure if I'm really covering any new territory. Just some observations.

Troy

reply to post by lee anoma


I believe it's the same administration, just different puppets.

reply to post by vipertech0596

What makes you so nervous about an independent investigation?

Originally posted by Black_Fox
reply to post by GhostLancer

 

Seeing you bring up star wars,reminded me of this...

This is how liberty dies

edit on 11-10-2010 by Black_Fox because: (no reason given)

CHEAP SHOT.
In the clip, President Obama says nothing that emulates the Sith. In fact, he states "Out of many, we are one." The clip serves nothing more than to incoherntly splice into the scene from Episode II where Queen Amidala states, "So this is how liberty dies..."

Obama's speech has *nothing* whatsoever to do with the implied nature of the piece. What our country needs MORE of is people working together, not taking cheap shots at our President. The same goes for the former President. Don't you realize that the Presidents aren't really in power?

Google COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS. Google TRILATERAL COMMISSION. Google BILDERBERG or BILDERBERGER GROUP.

***ASCEND*** from your current world view. Really. Not an insult. Just *ascend.* Read up on those three googles. And then you'll realize that no matter WHO is in office, he/she will enact the agenda. Votes don't matter anymore. Special interest funding does. Votes don't matter anymore. Corporate financing does. Votes don't matter anymore. Big Pharma offering your son a lucrative job does. Get it?

People are paid over a hundred THOUSAND dollars a year to come up with ways to make you hate Obama. He's the lightning rod. How could one man fix what took 8 years (and longer) to ruin? How can one man fix Wall Street corruption and greed? Think about it.