Man! These are the times when I wished I was educated.

All I have been able to contribute to the conversation was a story about my grandpa's old truck. (see page 4)

After reading the original post I was wondering if there is not a difference in one object orbiting another and one object going around in a circle -- like some of us.

It would seem if one object were in orbit of another, the gravity of the second object would be attracting the first and thus acting as to "input energy into the system" along with the enertia of the fist object to produce an orbit. Were as an object moving in a circle would need to supply the energy needed to constantly change it's direction around a singular point in space. Much like locking down the steering on a truck and adjusting the spark advance, trottle, to keep the engine running.

As I read the OP math figures, I saw no evidence of either of these. To do other wise would bring in discussions about some other physical laws.

Maybe I missed his point entirely. If so; oh well.

Original poster, I wish you could facilitate your theory a bit. Not everyone understands advanced math and people will end up being confused or misinformed.

What I'm getting is that swinging a rock attached to a rope in a circular motion is somehow similar to the moon orbiting a planet? The difference is, Earth is a planet with a core and the gravity pulls things to its core. When you swing the rock around, the core of the Earth is also pulling it down so when you let go or stop swinging it, it'll fall down. In space these planets are in out of space so they are not on a planet with gravity.

Please explain this though, maybe I misunderstood something.

My layman's idea of it all.


All mass is only visible and known with an interaction of light.

The light creator, our sun also creates magnetic waves. Those magnetic waves trap debris that forms into heavenly bodies. The heavenly bodies that receive the most light, tend to be the most dense. And they travel the fastest because they are in the fastest strongest bands of magnetic energy. Someone posted a video of a supposed free energy machine awhile ago. It had electrified rails that pushed a magnet around, turning the motor. Kind of what the planets do around the sun. It creates the electric rails that push the smaller magnets along.

Elliptical orbits are a matter of introductory vector, plane, distance from the sun(amount of light it receives) , and our own suns rotation.

The sun isn't stationary at all. That alone would cause distortions in a planets orbit. factor in how the planet was created or came to be in our system. was it debris that formed,a body injected into the system, or did it collide with another body? Planets with odd planes are most likely injected or had a collision with something that was. also an elliptical orbit is evidence that as it approaches perigee, it receives more light, and becomes more dense. It moves faster, flattening out its orbit.

The sun creates the order, or is working on it.

I too have wondered whether gravity was a conspiracy, but it isn't really questioned because of one reason: it works. When Kepler used Tycho Brahe's observations, he found empirically what was happening in the universe. Newton's law just explained it

Originally posted by theAymen
wow..im so impressed...i see evolution taking place...im so proud.

OP...CONCENTRATE ON ELECTROMAGNETICS....you will find your answer

im so happy...for two weeks now i have been saying this here..GRAVITY ONLY EXPLAINS A COLLISION PLUS OUR EXPLANATION OF GRAVITY IS A COLLECTION OF RESULTS, WITH A LABEL.

E&M is the reason for orbit...the sun has +- poles and the planets rotate inbetween these poles.

yes exactly, 'gravity' and electromagnetics have a direct relation. And its been ignored by the mainstream for a long time.

I also believe the suns emitted Neutrino's play a part in gravity.

When we were on the moon kicking up dust how come it fell so fast with only 1/6th of Earth's gravity. When we landed on the bottom of the Marianas Trench a dust ploom raised up and for 30 minutes the guys couldn't see squat outside of their submarine/bell and had to leave. NASA says it's because of the sun, why the moon dust fell so quick. The suns emissions cause a static charge which causes atoms to attract. If the suns emissions could be blocked and you kicked up dust on the moon it would take longer before it fell. This is also likely why the asteroid belt on the outside of our planet never came together as a planet. They didn't get enough of a static charge to attract to each other.

My personal theory is it's the neutrino's causing this static charge. But it's impossible to block them to verify my theory. NASA doesn't specify what emission from the sun is causing the static charge creating "gravity", or alteast helping it a whole lot.

Our method of carbon dating uses radioactive decay to estimate the age of things. This is flawed. Neutrino emissions from the sun are not constant, and it has been found Neutrino's can speed up or slow down radioactive decay. They may be the answer for the gap you are looking for in your data.